Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
So you'd rather play a guy who has NEVER played OG at LG instead of moving the HoF caliber OG back to OG and installing the guy who played LT at a pro-bowl level at LT?
That's...odd.
The LT position has given some of this fan base PTSD. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
So you'd rather play a guy who has NEVER played OG at LG instead of moving the HoF caliber OG back to OG and installing the guy who played LT at a pro-bowl level at LT?
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
So you'd rather play a guy who has NEVER played OG at LG instead of moving the HoF caliber OG back to OG and installing the guy who played LT at a pro-bowl level at LT?
That's...odd.
Not at all. I’m talking about next year if we lose Trey. I think Kingsley might just be a solid RG candidate in 2025. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Every one of those throws was drop and fire. Not a one of them took very long to develop.
One move and go routes.
Those are more viable now that we have a guy who can win those cuts in Brown. But what you don't have are those really good zone breakers that create confusion on the back end. The drags that require the WR get to the other side of the field, for instance. The deep crossers.
Corner routes? Yeah, you still have those. You can use smash concepts and wreck a cover 2 for instance (can get cover 4 as well). If Kelce turns it back up, you can really do some work on that corner route. Worthy could get it done from the slot.
But those get chewed up by Cover 3. So then you want to go to like a Y Cross or something to get downfield and you just can't do that with these short drops.
I think we'd see a lot of cover 3 looks (which also allows that safety to come down and play the run better) and with the short drops, we have less and less that can attack those. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Every one of those throws was drop and fire. Not a one of them took very long to develop.
The play calling has been night and day different since they put They at LT. It's painfully obvious yet people want to ignore it because they're scared.
They were scared of a team that didn't even make the playoffs. They were scared that LT would tank our season.
People, we are rooting for a 15-2 team in the brink of doing something no team has done before. Stop being scared pussies.
Guys I’m cleary talking about next year if we lose Trey. Kingsley has played G for one game. Sheesh :-)
And yet another point. Clay’s gif’s make the case for keeping Hollywood. Those quick passes were because of him.
I was at the game vs Houston. Him being out there changed everything. It made Worthy better. It opened up the middle of the field for Kelce/Hopkins. It opened up Watson being a rotational guy instead of “the guy” (and boy has he had some chances there). [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Not at all. I’m talking about next year if we lose Trey. I think Kingsley might just be a solid RG candidate in 2025.
With Morris, Nourzad and Kingsley, I'm not even a little worried about losing Smith next season.
Someone can fill that role just fine. But I'd still rather it NOT be Kingsley. Guys that big with that kind of athleticism are really rare and they're vital to finding an 'island' LT. If you want one of those, you have to get the guy with the traits to do it.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Well this is just wrong.
So maybe you ought try getting a little more analytical.
The clips are out there if you want to look at them. He most assuredly was not 'getting manhandled'. But if people buy you books and you just eat the pages, there's not a hell of a lot I can do to dissuade you from it.
Carry on...
You don't have to get sour! I know what I saw and Humphries just ain't got it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that! [Reply]
By the way, plays are kind of designed to come out when the QB reaches the end of his drop, whether it's 3-step, 5-step or 7-step....like WTF man :-)...you accuse ME of not knowing ball?
Joe Thuney is the LT. DJ Humphries isn't coming to save this team. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Guys I’m cleary talking about next year if we lose Trey. Kingsley has played G for one game. Sheesh :-)
And yet another point. Clay’s gif’s make the case for keeping Hollywood. Those quick passes were because of him.
I was at the game vs Houston. Him being out there changed everything. It made Worthy better. It opened up the middle of the field for Kelce/Hopkins. It opened up Watson being a rotational guy instead of “the guy” (and boy has he had some chances there).
If you don't keep Hollywood, you need to find someone to replace him.
As you noted, those plays just don't work without Hollywood. That's why I keep saying that I think HE'S been more critical to the offense than Thuney.
Hollywood's presence allows us to utilize those concepts that can still get you a little downfield on shorter drops. Without him (or a rejuvenated Kelce) those are just not in the playbook.
Because lets all remember that Thuney played LT vs. Cleveland and our offense looked as bad as it looked all season. It wasn't until Brown showed up vs. Houston that suddenly those plays started working.
What's why I keep saying I'm not convinced Thuney's move to LT is what made the difference. I think it may have been Brown's return. He's MASSIVE to this intermediate and downfield game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
By the way, plays are kind of designed to come out when the QB reaches the end of his drop, whether it's 3-step, 5-step or 7-step....like WTF man :-)...you accuse ME of not knowing ball?
Joe Thuney is the LT. DJ Humphries isn't coming to save this team.
Designed or not you know the Chiefs passing game with Mahomes has rarely ever looked like that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak:
You don't have to get sour! I know what I saw and Humphries just ain't got it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that!
Oh that was never in doubt.
You know what you know -- you made that quite clear. [Reply]