Originally Posted by staylor26:
No, you just don't know how to quote a post correctly so I was trying to fix it in an edit before finishing my post. You had your chance to show me where I, or anybody else, argued against Franklin having a 2nd round grade, and all you found was me telling you were making an irrelevant point playing Captain Hindsight.
Thanks for proving for the millionth time that you're a ****ing liar. Not a single person told you you were "crazy" for having Franklin in the 2nd round.
I've been here since 2007 and never once put somebody on ignore. You're about to be the first.
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
The note on McCaffery is interesting. They’d have him 8th save for his rating by SCOUTS inc. Worthy would rank ahead of Mitchell if not for SCOUTS, too.
McCaffrey's going to be a nice mid-late round gem.
Didn't Worthy out produce Mitchell in college? [Reply]
Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58:
You think McCaffrey goes somewhere in 4th round? As high as 3rd round?
What about Brenden Rice? I thought most had him as a 3rd rounder, but also saw the chargers had him for a top 30 visit.
I think they're both in that 3rd-4th range, but the publics big boards are always different than the true NFL scouts boards so there's always surprises.
Matt Miller on ESPN ranked Troy Franklin #68 today, just behind Polk.
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I think they're both in that 3rd-4th range, but the publics big boards are always different than the true NFL scouts boards so there's always surprises.
Matt Miller on ESPN ranked Troy Franklin #68 today, just behind Polk.
...Bit of a hot take there IMO
I think Miller is looking at how far Jalin Hyatt fell last year and where teams valued a faster guy who can stretch the field...and that's pretty much it. I would guess that Miller himself may value Franklin a little more than his ranking shows, but he's probably hedging his bet against a Hyatt-esque fall [Reply]
Originally Posted by kozzman555:
I think Miller is looking at how far Jalin Hyatt fell last year and where teams valued a faster guy who can stretch the field...and that's pretty much it. I would guess that Miller himself may value Franklin a little more than his ranking shows, but he's probably hedging his bet against a Hyatt-esque fall
He has Worthy #26.
He's also pretty high on Gould, has him just below Burton at #116. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Johnny Wilson has to be the hardest projection at WR in this draft.
What round do you guys think he goes in?
4th Rd minimum. Not too many successful dudes in the NFL that are 6'7", especially at skill positions. Also bro had some drops. You will get a team intrigued by him in the 4th or maybe 5th though that takes a flyer on him. [Reply]
I've honestly ignored Wilson a lot throughout the process, but when I actually watched, he's a better prospect than I was expecting.
I don't think he has to move to TE. I think he can legitimately play X. My biggest concern beyond his outlier profile is his hands, but if he can clean up the drops, he could be a steal. [Reply]
I've consumed so much content by now that I am not sure who's take I am agreeing with, but a take that resonated with me was that after the big 3 WR, the next two who have a reasonable shot to develop into a #1 WR eventually are are BTJ and AD Mitchell.
I don't think the Chiefs are getting any of the top 5 WR without giving up some notable capital, and trying to go up for a chance might be eventually be a 1, over just taking a good receiver in round 2 or hell maybe even round 3 who is just going to make your offense better does not sit right with me. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kozzman555:
4th Rd minimum. Not too many successful dudes in the NFL that are 6'7", especially at skill positions. Also bro had some drops. You will get a team intrigued by him in the 4th or maybe 5th though that takes a flyer on him.
He has the exact same measurements as Plaxico Burress did. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chargem:
I've consumed so much content by now that I am not sure who's take I am agreeing with, but a take that resonated with me was that after the big 3 WR, the next two who have a reasonable shot to develop into a #1 WR eventually are are BTJ and AD Mitchell.
I don't think the Chiefs are getting any of the top 5 WR without giving up some notable capital, and trying to go up for a chance might be eventually be a 1, over just taking a good receiver in round 2 or hell maybe even round 3 who is just going to make your offense better does not sit right with me.
I agree, personally see it like below:
1st Round Talent
Harrison Jr
Nabers
Odunze
Thomas Jr
2nd Round Talent
Mitchell
Franklin
McConkey
Worthy
Coleman
Legette
Polk
R Wilson
Burton
Pearsall
Walker
Baker
Corley [Reply]
BTJ is the only WR I really want in the 1st, others I wouldn't mind us taking ahead of 2nd, but there are a lot of options for us to move up in that 2nd round to target "our guy" amongst that list which feels more likely, will be plenty of talented WRs that fall into the 3rd as well. [Reply]