Originally Posted by O.city:
You had Kelce going nuts that year though. I'd prefer to see them get back to more explosion outside, but with the LT issue's it may not be in the cards.
I am convinced that it if Rashee and Hollywood don’t get hurt you have nobody saying anything bad about Patrick.
Rashee was giving us what Kelce did in 2022 before he got hurt. God that guy was gonna be in All-Pro conversations.
He was on track to have 1,600 yards and 11 TD’s
No doubt in my mind that he ends up at least 3rd and receiving and top 5 in TD’s if Patrick doesn’t kill his knee. [Reply]
Reading through this stuff I wonder if the reason the ball wasn't coming out faster some of the time is because our O line wasn't keeping the passing lanes clear for those routes. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah, that's a terrible idea.
You put a guy at LT with arms as short as Thuney and it will limit your drop backs for an entire season and teams WILL figure out how to exploit him.
They may be able to figure it out in the post-season.
Thuney isn't a long-term solution at LT at all. Credit for doing yeoman's work in a pinch, but you can't put him out there as a genuine plan.
You don't think defensive coordinators and opposing DE's figured out Thuney has shorter arms than most typical OT's in real time? You don't think these guys know how to counter an opposing player with shorter arms without having to figure it out over several games? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
You don't think defensive coordinators and opposing DE's figured out Thuney has shorter arms than most typical OT's in real time? You don't think these guys know how to counter an opposing player with shorter arms without having to figure it out over several games?
Of course they have, that's why we took all the deep developing plays out of the offense once Thuney moved.
This offense needs an intermediate and deep game to keep defenses honest. They're not getting that with Thuney. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
You don't think defensive coordinators and opposing DE's figured out Thuney has shorter arms than most typical OT's in real time? You don't think these guys know how to counter an opposing player with shorter arms without having to figure it out over several games?
It's less about dealing with Thuney and more about adjusting to how WE'RE dealing with Thuney.
Like I said - they could very easily figure something out as quickly as the Divisional Round. If we aren't doing anything but 3 step drops and firing in 2.5 seconds, they can really condense their coverages quite a bit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
It's less about dealing with Thuney and more about adjusting to how WE'RE dealing with Thuney.
Like I said - they could very easily figure something out as quickly as the Divisional Round. If we aren't doing anything but 3 step drops and firing in 2.5 seconds, they can really condense their coverages quite a bit.
Not only can they condense their coverages but they can play close to the LOS, allowing them to stop the run without any scheme help. [Reply]
Yes, the occasionally push the ball. But on average, they're working the ball underneath.
And that's not to say you CAN'T win this way. You absolutely can. My point being that Andy doesn't really want to. And over a long enough timeline, trying to win this way gets harder and harder.
It's strange to me that after all the caterwauling over Alex Smith looking short to long, we now seem eager to embrace exactly that. There aren't many chokepoints in an NFL offense but 2 of the most obvious ones are QB and OT.
And if your OT is forcing your QB to fire the ball in under 2.5 seconds on average then your OT play has turned your QB into a game manager. I'm fine SURVIVING that way, but I damn sure don't want to PLAN for it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Thanks for posting these. They make my case perfectly.
Yes, those intermediate and deep throws make the case for you perfectly that the intermediate and deep portions of our passing game have been removed. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Kinda makes the case for you in a different way. Boy Caliendo got worked badly on some of these. He’s not been as good as indicated.
That gives me hope that Kingsley can play G though. Really liked what I saw from him there in Denver.
So you'd rather play a guy who has NEVER played OG at LG instead of moving the HoF caliber OG back to OG and installing the guy who played LT at a pro-bowl level at LT?
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Kinda makes the case for you in a different way. Boy Caliendo got worked badly on some of these. He’s not been as good as indicated.
That gives me hope that Kingsley can play G though. Really liked what I saw from him there in Denver.
Every one of those throws was drop and fire. Not a one of them took very long to develop.
The play calling has been night and day different since they put They at LT. It's painfully obvious yet people want to ignore it because they're scared.
They were scared of a team that didn't even make the playoffs. They were scared that LT would tank our season.
People, we are rooting for a 15-2 team in the brink of doing something no team has done before. Stop being scared pussies. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Yes, those intermediate and deep throws make the case for you perfectly that the intermediate and deep portions of our passing game have been removed. :-)
Drop and out. Drop and out.
If you can't see it, I can't help you. Watch more football. [Reply]
