Hate to disagree bud but they have been hiding Wanya all year. It must have been hard for Andy to shift to a heavy run based offense to about 2 months.

And yeah they got rid of the ball so fast with Rice. Screens, quick passes, runs, max protection on a few of the deep passes. I remember some posters here and all of Twitter hammering Mahomes for his low ADOT calling him a checkdown merchant who can’t throw deep anymore.



Ball is out just as fast as it was when Thuney was there. Also I miss Rashee Rice :-)
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LT's and Pass Rushers are expensive, even the good not great ones.

You want a great one or a cheap one? Draft him and develop him.

We don't seem to be able to do that, so the next option is....
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I guess that's how the Texans and Steelers ended up being two of Pat's fastest release times IN HIS CAREER?

You should watch the games again. You're definitely missing something.
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Any chance the Chargers would trade us Rashawn Slater?
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The Chargers are probably going to pay him and then draft Jeanty, pure Harbaugh.
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DJ is not in football shape. Only 17 plays in the first half (including 2 three and outs) before his lack of stamina became a liability.
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Based on mocks and what we know, Josh Simmons might be our best shot. Kid looked so good for Ohio State but tore his ACL in late October vs Oregon. He’s not gonna be working out at the combine in Indy which greatly helps us so his stock won’t be as high.

Maybe you bring back Humphries for a year and draft his kid late 1st rd and red shirt him a year to recover?

That’s the type of options we have unfortunately.
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There's too many good RB's in this draft. They'll find one though.

They put Alt at LT this weekend, he's just so good there, I'm kinda thinking they go cheaper at RT, tag and trade Slater for a haul and build.
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Yeah, ultimately the stats don't lie.

The offense we ran with Thuney was just completely different than what we'd been doing.

Mahomes on deep throws this year takes 3.3 seconds to throw.
Intermediate -- 3.23
Short -- 2.41
Behind LOS -- 1.74

Against Houston and Pittsburgh he averaged less than 2.5 seconds. You're going to struggle to throw intermediate routes in that period of time, let alone anything downfield.

What was frustrating people wasn't the games like those with ADTs of around 6 yards and pop times of 2.4ish. It was games like New Orleans at 3.1 seconds and an ADOT of 4.4. Carolina at 3.1 and 6.6.

I think in a perfect world what I'd want to see is about 2.8 seconds as average time to throw and about 8.5-9 as the average depth of target. I feel like about the closest we got to that this year was the first Raiders game.

And I'm just not willing to live at 2.5-2.6 all season. That's just not going to allow us to use enough of the playbook. We'd get really predictable, really fast.
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Re: 2025, I see Joe Noteboom on the FA list, still, and that has my interest if he gets out of LA.

He's a good pass blocker. Not a superstar LT, but above-average. About to turn 30. No idea what his price would be or if the Rams will pay big to keep him, but he's never mentioned in the FA list, and I think he's - at worst - pretty comparable to Robinson.

I wouldn't go to 22M/year on either of them, though...
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Here's an interesting stat to look at -- PMs 2022 season.

That was his last truly elite passing season, right? Won the MVP and did it without a slew of elite weapons. Maybe the best he's ever been and did it with merely adequate play from OBJ at LT. 5,200 yards and 40 TDs.

Average time to throw on the season -- 2.85 seconds. Average depth of target -- 7.5.

So perhaps I'm being too aggressive saying I'd like to see that around 8.5-9. But if you can get that ADOT to 7.5-8 and an average pop time of 2.8-2.9, you sure look to be in a sweet spot.
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Don't do the positional value thing with Harbaugh, he builds teams completely not giving a fuck about it.
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GoChiesfs says it will be Thuney…you can now put DJ in there at LT in pen.
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You had Kelce going nuts that year though. I'd prefer to see them get back to more explosion outside, but with the LT issue's it may not be in the cards.
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I can't give you anymore rep right now but this post is definitely rep-worthy.
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