My guess is it will Be Thuney at LT in the playoffs. They are going to want to go with what worked during their most successful period in the season. Thuney at LT and Caliendo at LG. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak:
I disagree. Starting Humphries and then having to go to Thuney will bring a "panic mode" to the team during the game, not ideal.
Humphries was beat every way imaginable in the 2nd half on Sunday. He'll be sitting out the playoffs!
When is the last time you saw this team panic over anything, let alone a position swap? [Reply]
I’ve decided that I think they’re for sure gonna try to put Humphries back out there in the divisional.
I mean if they were willing to put Donovan Smith back on the field after not playing for over a month (and not looking very good during the games he did play prior), then I don’t see why they wouldn’t at least take a stab at the higher ceiling outcome which involves Hump.
If he does suck out loud during the first half, you go back to Thuney. Easy peasy. But I don’t think he will. Especially not during these home playoff games where traditionally our OL plays their best. He will be able to time the snap count better and communicate with Joe and the offense clearly. [Reply]
Humphries got to knock the rust off and I think he'll start with Thuney back at LG. This gives the Chiefs the best possible line IMO especially if they protect DJ like they did Thuney. [Reply]
I don't remember where I read it, but it spoke to how Thuney plays LT.
He doesn't really get back. He works with what he has which is technique and hands - it ain't length. So he can't be as deliberate as you'd like him to be.
So it was suggested that the reason Mahomes was getting the ball out so quickly and the drops were so short was that Thuney simply doesn't like getting back to a 'catch point' and receiving the rusher -- he prefers attack the rusher and that makes the drop point for Mahomes shorter because if he goes back 7 or 5 steps, it makes it too easy for rushers to just go around Thuney.
Humphries doesn't do that. Look at some of those reps vs. Bonitto -- he doesn't look like a guard playing OT -- he LOOKS like an OT. He gets back, he gets set, he forms a pocket. As opposed to Thuney who attacks and holds on for dear life.
Yeah, I think I'm trending towards Pugs as well here - I think they'll try Humphries because he just has a skill set and way of playing the position that Thuney doesn't.
Is it smart? Maybe not - why fuck with the quick passing game when it was working? But to a previous point (Maybe 'maqes?) -- if it ISN'T working in a game and Thuney is your LT, you really can't flip to a 5-7 step game and a downfield attack. Thuney can't really give you that. And you can't flip from Thuney to Humphries in-game, IMO.
Whereas if you start with Humphries and he's not holding up to the downfield stuff, you CAN dial in the quick game again and probably won't even have to take DJ off the field. And if you do, it's easier to take him down and move Thuney out to LT than vice versa.
I think the flexibility offered by starting Humphries is great enough that it's a risk worth taking. [Reply]
Regardless, I'm betting we won't have any idea what they're going to do until game day. I have to imagine they'll see it as a strategic advantage to not tip their hand about the plan until the last minute. Should be interesting. [Reply]
Good points DJ. When we lost rice, we weren't throwing those quick hits as often but with Hollywood back, we have done more of that. I would hope that no matter what they do with the line, they keep using those quick hitters. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I don't remember where I read it, but it spoke to how Thuney plays LT.
He doesn't really get back. He works with what he has which is technique and hands - it ain't length. So he can't be as deliberate as you'd like him to be.
So it was suggested that the reason Mahomes was getting the ball out so quickly and the drops were so short was that Thuney simply doesn't like getting back to a 'catch point' and receiving the rusher -- he prefers attack the rusher and that makes the drop point for Mahomes shorter because if he goes back 7 or 5 steps, it makes it too easy for rushers to just go around Thuney.
Humphries doesn't do that. Look at some of those reps vs. Bonitto -- he doesn't look like a guard playing OT -- he LOOKS like an OT. He gets back, he gets set, he forms a pocket. As opposed to Thuney who attacks and holds on for dear life.
Yeah, I think I'm trending towards Pugs as well here - I think they'll try Humphries because he just has a skill set and way of playing the position that Thuney doesn't.
Is it smart? Maybe not - why **** with the quick passing game when it was working? But to a previous point (Maybe 'maqes?) -- if it ISN'T working in a game and Thuney is your LT, you really can't flip to a 5-7 step game and a downfield attack. Thuney can't really give you that. And you can't flip from Thuney to Humphries in-game, IMO.
Whereas if you start with Humphries and he's not holding up to the downfield stuff, you CAN dial in the quick game again and probably won't even have to take DJ off the field. And if you do, it's easier to take him down and move Thuney out to LT than vice versa.
I think the flexibility offered by starting Humphries is great enough that it's a risk worth taking.
Humphries was getting manhandled!!!! He wasn't trying to form a pocket. We're getting too analytical here. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak:
Humphries was getting manhandled!!!! He wasn't trying to form a pocket. We're getting too analytical here.
Well this is just wrong.
So maybe you ought try getting a little more analytical.
The clips are out there if you want to look at them. He most assuredly was not 'getting manhandled'. But if people buy you books and you just eat the pages, there's not a hell of a lot I can do to dissuade you from it.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He doesn't really get back. He works with what he has which is technique and hands - it ain't length. So he can't be as deliberate as you'd like him to be.
This is why Thuney is so so good. It’s the same reason Mitchell Schwartz was so good. Thuney loses slowly. You aren’t winning very often against him if you go hands-to-hands against him. He’s gonna beat you up front.
It’s the exact opposite of Kingsley, who has 99th percentile size, strength and agility. You saw Kingsley get dog walked so much bc he can’t use his hands well.
Alex Highsmith tried everything against Thuney and none of it worked. He tried to bull rush him and Thuney stood him up. He tried to use his hands and it didn’t work. He even tried to fly around the corner and Thuney was ready for it.
That’s what I like about Thuney. He isn’t easy to beat. You’re not gonna beat him quickly very often. The only time I saw it was against Myles Garrett which was completely understandable.
That extra second that Thuney provided is vital. That’s why I’d consider a conversation for him being the LT next year. He’s wen way better than Humphries so far from what I’ve seen [Reply]
