Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jerm:
It's funny how you can see right through their bullshit...Shannon has taken the Mahomes fan mantle, Bayless the complete opposite.
So now we have to do this bullshit skit "grading" him and shocking the grades match their stances. :-)
Shannon was a Mahomes fan during the start of last year, so it's nothing top do with "skit". Skip just cannot handle anyone being better than Brady and thus always tries to find a negative angle to judge Pat. It's funny tbh and I enjoy the segments because they keep talking about our golden boy every week :-) . [Reply]
On one of his worst days, Patrick Mahomes shows why he is the NFL’s best
A gulf exists between Patrick Mahomes and the rest of the NFL, and his performance Sunday afternoon provided a new way to explain the distance. He struggled to solve a sophisticated defensive game plan, the Kansas City Chiefs’ offense frequently stalled, and he failed to throw a touchdown pass. Mahomes also passed for more than 300 yards. He peeked at a referee to check and see if it was worthwhile to continue scrambling, and when he saw it was, he casually scampered for 25 yards. He led a game-winning, last-minute touchdown drive on which he darted 15 yards on fourth and eight. Mahomes’s tough days render him the most powerful weapon in the NFL. Even when he seems vulnerable, Mahomes is inevitable.
The first quarter of the NFL season has not offered much in the way of clarity. Almost half the league is shuffling quarterbacks in one form or another. The Los Angeles Rams had been the clear NFC favorite, and then they yielded 55 points to Tampa Bay. The Browns have already looked chic, overhyped and like a juggernaut. The AFC is one big muddle, with 13 of 16 teams sitting at 2-2 or worse.
But the season’s first four weeks have established one rock-solid certainty: Mahomes is the overwhelming favorite to repeat as MVP. He dragged the Chiefs to a 34-30 victory over the Lions in Detroit, spearheading a 79-yard touchdown drive that ended with 20 seconds left in the fourth quarter. Even after a sloppy game against a previously unbeaten team, the Chiefs are 4-0.
Mahomes had played on a different plane for the season’s first three weeks, shredding defenses for 1,195 yards and 10 touchdowns without throwing an interception, even after losing top wide receiver Tyreek Hill to an injury in Week 1. After throwing 50 touchdown passes in his first season as a starter, Mahomes showed that he was still evolving, meshing his extraterrestrial throwing arm with an improved understanding of Coach Andy Reid’s offense.
Sunday in Detroit was different. Lions Coach Matt Patricia dropped defensive linemen into coverage, alternated rushing patterns and mixed up coverages. Mahomes completed seven of his first 14 passes for 90 yards. The Chiefs didn’t score a touchdown on their first two trips to the red zone, and at one point in the second half they fumbled on three consecutive possessions.
Mahomes still found a way to be Mahomes. He ran for 54 yards, taking advantage of gaps when the Lions played man coverage and double-teamed outside receivers. On the Chiefs’ final drive, the middle of the field opened on fourth and eight. Mahomes didn’t hesitate, and his dash up the middle kept the Chiefs alive.
The Chiefs survived in part because cornerback Breshaud Breeland scooped a fumble at the goal line and returned it 100 yards for a defensive touchdown, essentially a 14-point swing. Mahomes still delivered with the most clutch regular season drive of his career.
“Just finding whatever way to win the football game,” Mahomes said. “That’s how you roll in this league. It’s not always about the touchdowns and the yards — it’s about finding a way to win. If that was running for the first down, if that was handing the ball off when I have my running backs work for me, I mean, I’m going to do that. If you want to be great as a team, as a player, it’s how you win the game. So for me, I’m just going to go out there every single week and do whatever it takes to win.”
Patricia, the former New England Patriots defensive coordinator, could have given his old boss some clues about how to slow down Mahomes, the same way he shed light on stopping the Rams last year in a regular season meeting before the Patriots strangled the Rams in the Super Bowl.
In every conversation regarding the Chiefs, the Patriots immediately become relevant. Until they played one another in the AFC championship game last year, the Chiefs and Patriots had a combined record of 25-9. In the playoff round prior, they won by a combined score of 72-41. At halftime of those divisional round games, they had built leads of 35-7 and 24-7.
The NFL’s great quarterback transition is happening, and the most flexible teams will thrive
The Patriots and Chiefs created a chasm between themselves and the AFC last year, and they have already done the same this season. The Ravens may be a worthy challenger, but they have lost two consecutive games in which they have surrendered more than 500 yards. Week 4 is going to end with only the Patriots, Chiefs and Buffalo Bills better than 2-2 in the AFC.
The Chiefs and Patriots have only further separated themselves in the AFC. Their coaches are way ahead of everyone else. Their quarterbacks are unfair in their own ways. The next four months will likely be about those two teams circling each other and determining where the rematch will be played. They play Dec. 28 at New England, and they will probably see each other in January, too.
The Patriots are ever on the Chiefs’ horizon, especially for Coach Andy Reid. He has done everything in the NFL except win the Super Bowl, and the reason has most often been the Patriots. The one time Reid made the Super Bowl, with the Philadelphia Eagles after the 2004 season, he lost to Belichick and the Patriots. In his six seasons in Kansas City, two of Reid’s teams have won a playoff game. Both of them lost the following week to Belichick and the Patriots.
But he has never had a force like Mahomes. It’s easy to forget that, at 24, Mahomes is still checking off boxes. He had, somewhat incredibly, never played in a dome before Sunday. The Lions entered unbeaten, and Mahomes has rarely beaten quality opponents — the Chiefs went 3-5 against playoff teams last season. He didn’t have his best game Sunday, but that didn’t prevent Mahomes from winning, or from showing what makes him the MVP.
Originally Posted by jjjayb:
Won't get to watch this until later. Please tell me Shannon asked Skip how Dak and Brady graded yesterday.
Watch the one where they discuss the Cowboys. I have never seen Skip yelp so much in his life. Then he tried arguing that he knew coverage better than Shannon. Arguing coverage against a HOF TE meanwhile you’re ass hasn’t played a down ever. Sit down old man [Reply]
Originally Posted by Carlota69:
He had a 4th quarter comeback in his very FIRST start, which was the last game of 2017 vs Denver, plus Denver (again) and Baltimore last year.
In his first game, I believe they were tied at 24 when Mahomes came back in. So not technically a comeback. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
Watch the one where they discuss the Cowboys. I have never seen Skip yelp so much in his life. Then he tried arguing that he knew coverage better than Shannon. Arguing coverage against a HOF TE meanwhile you’re ass hasn’t played a down ever. Sit down old man
When Skip was on ESPN he pulled the same shit with Tim Legler [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
ESPN graded Mahomes higher than Stafford. 77 QBR for Mahomes and 73 for Stafford. Pat got a lot of credit for the clutch 2 minute drive, plus his ability to run the ball. No sacks on Mahomes, whereas Stafford took 4 sacks for 30 yards.
I think it's very clear that the WR weren't running the right routes several times. PMII is literally an expert of this offense, remember it took ASS11 like 4-5 years to fully understand it. That's the reason why he was so pissed, it's because the young WRs weren't doing the right things. I think playing on the turf had something to do with it too, maybe he expected the receivers to be faster, so he threw the ball a bit further than he would normally. [Reply]
