Originally Posted by Dante84:
If Hump's biggest issue is conditioning as the game goes on, but he's decent when in the first half...
Is it a terrible strategy to have him start the first half, and slide Thuney in for the second half if/when (before) he starts to drop off?
I know a mid-game shuffle is normally not ideal and typically done out of desperation after poor performance or injury.
But if that's the gameplan all along, and everyone is ready/on the same page, could that be a net-positive? Essentially a LT by committee approach.
I was thinking about this too. He's got 12 more days to be ready for a huge game. I would never think that's enough time to be 100% in football shape but he could be better than he is now. When he has his wind, we saw that he's far better than anyone else at LT, including Thuney. Can he last an entire game in 12 days? Reid isn't one to fumble around with unknowns in a game but it seems like it would be beneficial to at least try and then move Thuney over if the wheels start coming off. You know you're getting better play for at least part of the game at two positions. That also puts him one step closer to lasting the next game. I honestly don't see how it hurts us more than it doesn't. [Reply]
You know they’re gonna have 3-4 really tough practice days with pads between now and game day. Let him work and I think you may come out ahead.
If Mahomes and the offense don’t continue to operate as they have the past two games, it won’t matter who is in that spot. They found a groove that kept those defenses on their heels more and they have to continue to attack in that manner. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I was thinking about this too. He's got 12 more days to be ready for a huge game. I would never think that's enough time to be 100% in football shape but he could be better than he is now. When he has his wind, we saw that he's far better than anyone else at LT, including Thuney. Can he last an entire game in 12 days? Reid isn't one to fumble around with unknowns in a game but it seems like it would be beneficial to at least try and then move Thuney over if the wheels start coming off. You know you're getting better play for at least part of the game at two positions. That also puts him one step closer to lasting the next game. I honestly don't see how it hurts us more than it doesn't.
I dunno man, I really don't think what he's shown is better than what we've seen from Thuney. Sure his Pro Bowl years would be incomparably better, bet that's not what he's shown, and we really don't know he can deliver that.
I just struggle to see how you can start a guy with that little time over a winning team and an OL that has worked UNLESS he really shows out. The wheels didn't start coming off with Thuney, surely he gets the nod to start there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I guess the biggest question is....why not?
Or at least, why don't they want to stick with that sort of offense? I mean this quick-hitter stuff is WORKING. And the downfield chemistry with Worthy is still not there. No reason to expect it to show up at this point.
Just do what you did for those 3 weeks. You can win with that.
If the reason they don't want Thuney is because they don't want to run the offense that his presence necessitated, I just have to ask why they're so opposed to that? I get that it's not sexy but if Watson is back healthy and with the return of Omenihu, this defense should be at/near where it was last post-season.
You don't NEED sexy.
I don’t understand how the offensive performance with Morris and Kingsley didn’t/doesn’t necessitate the scheme changes. It’s difficult to argue with a one loss record (I won’t count yesterday), but one has to wander what our offense would have accomplished if those two got the help that Thuney has received. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Raiderhater:
I don’t understand how the offensive performance with Morris and Kingsley didn’t/doesn’t necessitate the scheme changes. It’s difficult to argue with a one loss record (I won’t count yesterday), but one has to wander what our offense would have accomplished if those two got the help that Thuney has received.
My personal opinion is that our team is so good that they actually use much of the regular season as a giant warmup. That's not to say they're out there trying to actively lose games, but they take the regular season to give guys a chance to grow into roles and accept a few bumps along the way. When we get toward the end of the season, they give up on some of those experiments and start focusing on what works (scheme changes) so that we're ready to roll in the postseason.
Maybe that's a naive take and they've been trying their hardest all along, but there's no question that we've had plenty of times when we've looked like shit in the regular season these last few years only to turn it on when we get to January. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JPH83:
I dunno man, I really don't think what he's shown is better than what we've seen from Thuney. Sure his Pro Bowl years would be incomparably better, bet that's not what he's shown, and we really don't know he can deliver that.
I just struggle to see how you can start a guy with that little time over a winning team and an OL that has worked UNLESS he really shows out. The wheels didn't start coming off with Thuney, surely he gets the nod to start there.
He absolutely stoned Bonitto that entire first half last night. I don't think I can agree that he didn't look much better than Thuney. When the wheels came off, now that's a different thing. But man, if you get that an entire game then you're winning easy. Reid will do what's right though, I trust that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
He absolutely stoned Bonitto that entire first half last night. I don't think I can agree that he didn't look much better than Thuney. When the wheels came off, now that's a different thing. But man, if you get that an entire game then you're winning easy. Reid will do what's right though, I trust that.
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
So, in watching that tape DJ looked halfway decent, and all these comments about them having to change the offense for Thuney make you think they want to go with Humphries. I really wonder if they have a plan as of now, or if they are still figuring things out. They didn't exactly put anyone in a position to succeed yesterday, so you have to think they aren't overly concerned or excited over what they saw and weren't going to put much stock in the film that came out of it because of the situation.
Maybe they've already seen enough in practice and the film room to know he's the guy. Obviously, if you really want to put the best group out there, it's going to include him, at least on paper. I hope he's up for this, because this isn't the Arizona Cardinals anymore. I know he's used to big games in college, but this is an entirely different beast.
I think we're all...(well, MOST of us) are saying variations of the same thing.
I think the TEAM would love Humphries to be at LT. But if he's looking shaky in practice over the next few weeks, then yeah, they won't risk it.
The game tape doesn't look nearly as bad as some would have you believe.
I don't think the gameplan was for Wince to hold the ball for 5 seconds every play. But he was sure gonna try!
He's fucking terrible.
Anyway, Andy'll do what he thinks is best, and I won't squeal about it either way.
But my feeling is that if Humphries is anywhere near 100%, they'll be rolling with him. AND still aiming to get the ball out quick. Because that is smart, regardless. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
My personal opinion is that our team is so good that they actually use much of the regular season as a giant warmup. That's not to say they're out there trying to actively lose games, but they take the regular season to give guys a chance to grow into roles and accept a few bumps along the way. When we get toward the end of the season, they give up on some of those experiments and start focusing on what works (scheme changes) so that we're ready to roll in the postseason.
Maybe that's a naive take and they've been trying their hardest all along, but there's no question that we've had plenty of times when we've looked like shit in the regular season these last few years only to turn it on when we get to January.
That very well could be, and I’d so, so be it. As I said, it’s difficult to complain about a one loss season - well, for some of us it’s difficult anyway. [Reply]