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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Xavier Worthy Thread*****
Dante84 09:24 PM 04-25-2024
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Mescalito345 07:20 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Last year Rashee Rice started heating up around this time with Mahomes last year and so is Mahomes.

Love that Worthy came back to the ball. I hated that MVS never did that.

Great play kid

PM looked like an NBA player on that one. Jump pass, neither foot on the ground. Amazing!
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Chiefnj2 08:27 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I counted three 3rd downs that Worthy was not on the field. No surprise this is the result.

He should be on the field on every single 3rd down.

The only thing I can think is that with the 5 down lineman, Mahomes took a second too long to see if anyone was going to drop, and then the pass rusher on the far left (D view) was in the throwing lane to JuJu.
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htismaqe 08:31 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
I'm not sure why we aren't running a few slants with Worthy. The kid seems to be good at making catches in traffic or when he's getting hit. I think he could run the same stuff that Rice was running when he was playing. I think Worthy is gonna have 2 or 3 big games to finish out the season.
I don't know. So much of it is just the ability to box the defender out. Worthy doesn't seem like that type of player.
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O.city 08:40 AM 12-10-2024
I'd be more interested in getting Worthy on some of the deep crossers
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Rausch 08:44 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Next season should see a big jump. Give an entire offseason for Pat and him to work together
I have no idea what his contract looks like or what he'd ask but I'd love to see him back here for another year or two.
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Marcellus 09:31 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
It’s a class slant flat pick play

Throw the ball

DJ is right, Pat gave up on it before it played out
Edit: I see he should have thrown it right about when the 6 second mark is in the video to JuJu.
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O.city 09:33 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I've watched the play over and over, I don't see any point where there is an even remotely open receiver.
They're running two interferences for the motion out player, which here is JJSS.

The defender has to go over the top of the 2 WR's, throw it to the sideline. It's a classic 3rd and 4/5 play
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O.city 09:34 AM 12-10-2024
It's one you have to anticipate and be on time with.

That's just not been something Pat has been able to do this year. Not sure what the issue is.
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DJ's left nut 10:25 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
It's one you have to anticipate and be on time with.

That's just not been something Pat has been able to do this year. Not sure what the issue is.
Do they not practice?

That's what's driving me nuts.

All this stuff about not having chemistry or timing being off or whatever.

Do they not practice these things? And frankly, what's to even practice on that play? We literally use that play with our 1st and 2nd graders. I mean there's just nothing to that.

And he just didn't run the play. The stunts that get pressure up the middle - do we not practice those? Zone drop-offs and pickups in the secondary - we working on tying our shoes on Wednesdays?

This team just isn't showing any improvement in any of these areas. Every week we say "We saw some things to work on..."

And then they just don't improve at all.

What do they do all week? I know installs take time but shit fellas, maybe go back to square 1 here if we can't get interior pressure and zone coverages figured out. If our QB won't throw a fucking out route because "He doesn't trust the play" then what are we even doing here?

It's just annoying.
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O.city 10:35 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Do they not practice?

That's what's driving me nuts.

All this stuff about not having chemistry or timing being off or whatever.

Do they not practice these things? And frankly, what's to even practice on that play? We literally use that play with our 1st and 2nd graders. I mean there's just nothing to that.

And he just didn't run the play. The stunts that get pressure up the middle - do we not practice those? Zone drop-offs and pickups in the secondary - we working on tying our shoes on Wednesdays?

This team just isn't showing any improvement in any of these areas. Every week we say "We saw some things to work on..."

And then they just don't improve at all.

What do they do all week? I know installs take time but shit fellas, maybe go back to square 1 here if we can't get interior pressure and zone coverages figured out. If our QB won't throw a ****ing out route because "He doesn't trust the play" then what are we even doing here?

It's just annoying.
Yeah....I dunno if he's just broken from all the interceptions and wild stuff last year, but it's just way off.
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ThrobProng 10:41 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah....I dunno if he's just broken from all the interceptions and wild stuff last year, but it's just way off.
I think most of the issue is the OL. When Mahomes isn't actually getting mauled by a defender, he's worried about getting mauled by a defender.

That moving pocket play might be a big help. Mahomes likes to drift out of the pocket anyway, so plan around that shit.
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PAChiefsGuy 10:41 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Do they not practice?

That's what's driving me nuts.

All this stuff about not having chemistry or timing being off or whatever.

Do they not practice these things? And frankly, what's to even practice on that play? We literally use that play with our 1st and 2nd graders. I mean there's just nothing to that.

And he just didn't run the play. The stunts that get pressure up the middle - do we not practice those? Zone drop-offs and pickups in the secondary - we working on tying our shoes on Wednesdays?

This team just isn't showing any improvement in any of these areas. Every week we say "We saw some things to work on..."

And then they just don't improve at all.

What do they do all week? I know installs take time but shit fellas, maybe go back to square 1 here if we can't get interior pressure and zone coverages figured out. If our QB won't throw a ****ing out route because "He doesn't trust the play" then what are we even doing here?

It's just annoying.
Well what do you want them to say? I'm sure they are working on it very hard every practice. However, working on it during practice and having the ability to perform during the game when you are going against actual opponents are two different things.

They need to keep trying. It may or may not lead to actually results but you can't give up. We saw the team struggle with dropped balls all season last year and when the playoffs came they seemed to finally get it right especially MVS. Hopefully the Mahomes-Worthy deep ball will finally start to connect once the playoffs start (or before).
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Bearcat 10:56 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah....I dunno if he's just broken from all the interceptions and wild stuff last year, but it's just way off.
It's just sometimes though... they have good opening drives (and assume those are pretty well scripted), they very quickly get their shit together when they absolutely need to at the end of games, and sometimes it happens for a drive in the middle of the game.

It's sometimes mind boggling how it can go from indecisive rookie QB to 3 time SB Champion Patrick Mahomes on a drive by drive basis.
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O.city 11:09 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by ThrobProng:
I think most of the issue is the OL. When Mahomes isn't actually getting mauled by a defender, he's worried about getting mauled by a defender.

That moving pocket play might be a big help. Mahomes likes to drift out of the pocket anyway, so plan around that shit.
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
It's just sometimes though... they have good opening drives (and assume those are pretty well scripted), they very quickly get their shit together when they absolutely need to at the end of games, and sometimes it happens for a drive in the middle of the game.

It's sometimes mind boggling how it can go from indecisive rookie QB to 3 time SB Champion Patrick Mahomes on a drive by drive basis.
Well, I don't disagree but....shit fellas that's kinda life in the NFL.

Burrow gets his ass kicked in behind that line. He still plays well. Matt Stafford is flinging it everywhere behind UDFA's it seems like.
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PAChiefsGuy 11:10 AM 12-10-2024
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
It's just sometimes though... they have good opening drives (and assume those are pretty well scripted), they very quickly get their shit together when they absolutely need to at the end of games, and sometimes it happens for a drive in the middle of the game.

It's sometimes mind boggling how it can go from indecisive rookie QB to 3 time SB Champion Patrick Mahomes on a drive by drive basis.
I don't know how true that actually is though. Yes Chiefs offense has had plenty of clutch drives but they've had some where they had to punt as well. Overall obviously I think they've been better under pressure but I don't think it's as big of a gap as some on here think.

They simply aren't that good of an offense this year. they aren't bad but nothing special. i think the D has been a little more consistent. It's just good overall team - they have good balance.
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