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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Kareem Hunt Thread*****
Dante84 08:38 PM 04-28-2017
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-King- 05:37 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Years of Jamaal Charles have spoiled us. Reality is, he was really a non-factor the past two seasons and the run game was still respectable.

There are more dynamic runners than Hunt, but one cannot argue his four years of production. Durability and ball security are underrated factors about his game. Getting Hunt where the Chiefs got him fit the projection. Decent if not a solid pick. He will get fantastic coaching from Bieniemy don't forget.
The running game was trash after week 6 or 7 last year. The difference in the playoff game wasn't Smith vs Roethlisberger, they were both shitty. The difference was LeVeon Bell vs Spencer Ware. One had 175 yards and the other had 35.

I think Hunt will be like Ware, a decent #2 running back but struggles to maintain his play over a full season.
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nychief 05:41 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by -King-:
The running game was trash after week 6 or 7 last year. The difference in the playoff game wasn't Smith vs Roethlisberger, they were both shitty. The difference was LeVeon Bell vs Spencer Ware. One had 175 yards and the other had 35.

I think Hunt will be like Ware, a decent #2 running back but struggles to maintain his play over a full season.
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Well, if we are going to play the LeVeon Bell vs. game.... it is going to be a long night.

Was LeVeon Bell on the board when we picked Hunt?
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staylor26 05:48 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by -King-:
The running game was trash after week 6 or 7 last year. The difference in the playoff game wasn't Smith vs Roethlisberger, they were both shitty. The difference was LeVeon Bell vs Spencer Ware. One had 175 yards and the other had 35.

I think Hunt will be like Ware, a decent #2 running back but struggles to maintain his play over a full season.
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How can you predict that his play won't maintain over a full season? What are you basing that on? That's a strange thing to say. It's not like we have any answer as the why that happened to Ware still. My best guess is it was because he has never been a workhorse before. Since that's not the case with Hunt, I'm calling bullshit on your prediciton.
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Easy 6 05:48 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by -King-:
The running game was trash after week 6 or 7 last year. The difference in the playoff game wasn't Smith vs Roethlisberger, they were both shitty. The difference was LeVeon Bell vs Spencer Ware. One had 175 yards and the other had 35.

I think Hunt will be like Ware, a decent #2 running back but struggles to maintain his play over a full season.
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You may be right about Hunt and Ware being roughly equal, but dont forget that Ware was a 6th rounder and a lot of the pundits had 3rd round Hunt rated evenly with bigger names like Dalvin Cook

Its a small sample admittedly, but all of the clips I've watched on Hunt suggest that he is a better pure runner, with better instincts and vision
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RunKC 05:54 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by -King-:
The running game was trash after week 6 or 7 last year. The difference in the playoff game wasn't Smith vs Roethlisberger, they were both shitty. The difference was LeVeon Bell vs Spencer Ware. One had 175 yards and the other had 35.

I think Hunt will be like Ware, a decent #2 running back but struggles to maintain his play over a full season.
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4.4 YPC and a TD that game.

Andy only gave him 8 carries
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-King- 06:45 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by staylor26:
How can you predict that his play won't maintain over a full season? What are you basing that on? That's a strange thing to say. It's not like we have any answer as the why that happened to Ware still. My best guess is it was because he has never been a workhorse before. Since that's not the case with Hunt, I'm calling bullshit on your prediciton.
Cause hes not a guy that avoids contact. Like Ware, he bounces off a bunch of guys and keeps going. That works fine in the beginning of the season, but as the season goes in, all that extra contact wears on the body and it starts to break down. That's what happened to Ware last year. Good early. Bad late in the season
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staylor26 06:48 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by -King-:
Cause hes not a guy that avoids contact. Like Ware, he bounces off a bunch of guys and keeps going. That works fine in the beginning of the season, but as the season goes in, all that extra contact wears on the body and it starts to break down. That's what happened to Ware last year. Good early. Bad late in the season
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There are also many RB's who manage to take a beating and keep going. Your claims are baseless.

Also, I don't think you've watched much of him because he doesn't always just duck his head and take guys on. He makes moves to get by them too.
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-King- 06:56 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by staylor26:
There are also many RB's who manage to take a beating and keep going. Your claims are baseless.

Also, I don't think you've watched much of him because he doesn't always just duck his head and take guys on. He makes moves to get by them too.
Spencer Ware has moves too. But his game is based on contact and going through that contact. Same as what I've seen from Hunt. Like I said, Ware isn't a bad running back and hunt probably won't be bad. But they're both going to be about average. I've been spiked by Priest, Jamaal and even Larry Johnson to some degree to expect more from KC running backs.
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Easy 6 06:58 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by staylor26:
There are also many RB's who manage to take a beating and keep going. Your claims are baseless.

Also, I don't think you've watched much of him because he doesn't always just duck his head and take guys on. He makes moves to get by them too.
People have posted the stat about him causing the most missed tackles in college football for the last 48 hours, he doesnt really look slick doing it... but he knows how to avoid contact
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mlyonsd 07:50 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
People have posted the stat about him causing the most missed tackles in college football for the last 48 hours, he doesnt really look slick doing it... but he knows how to avoid contact
It appears to me he knows how to take it more than avoid it.
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go bo 09:37 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
It appears to me he knows how to take it more than avoid it.
it must be our old eyes tricking us, because it sure looked that way to me, too...

he just flat out broke a lot of tackles, a shit ton!!

me lykeey theese pick!!!! :-) :-) :-)
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 09:42 PM 04-30-2017
What Dorsey did was get us our own version of Freeman/Coleman. You have two guys who can run the ball and also catch in space. Every 3rd game, you give Hunt extra reps so that Ware can rest his legs a little bit.

20% of Matt Ryan's production last year was throwing it down to the RB. Also holds true for Brady the last few seasons.

Love this move by Dorsey.
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 09:44 PM 04-30-2017
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
People have posted the stat about him causing the most missed tackles in college football for the last 48 hours, he doesnt really look slick doing it... but he knows how to avoid contact
Looks like he's playing pinball out there. He seems to know what angles to take to draw a bad tackle and squeeze in a few extra yards.
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Warrick 10:05 PM 04-30-2017
Some of you need to watch more video of him because you have no clue what you're talking about, this kid is special.
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raybec 4 08:46 AM 05-01-2017
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
Niners traded up to snag him in the 4th. In any normal draft not stacked with RB's, he would've been an early 3rd. The upside on Joe Williams is impressive.
But the floor on quitter Joe is much lower.
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