Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Not really. Technically, he was right and you were wrong. Denver was a really bad team just like he and I said. He shouldn't have weinered out of the bet though, like I said at the time. Seems like a draw to me.
IMO, he wussed out and tried to change the meaning of my bet, so it would not look like he was wussing out. Typical tactic of his - use a bunch of words to try and confuse the issue and assign his meaning to what I was saying / posing. Say it enough and you believe it... Dont get caught up in any stupid mind game. The bet was that they would not even finish .500. When the MH Mule Tool came back and said his BS about not wanting to take a lame 8 -8 bet, I was very clear and further defined it to mean that the bet I was posing was not for the LP Broncos to finish 8 - 8 , but rather for them to not even finish 8 - 8. I further explained that to mean no more than 7 wins - which clearly meant they would have a losing record. He kept stringing it out and never accepted it because that's what he does with everything - its always talk..talk...talk....Then the Broncos lost again and I just dropped it because it was clear that he was not gonna take me up on it. Thats what realy happened...Now that this has resurfaced again, and this is the off season, Ill make time and go back and find all our exchanges on the posed bet and re-post them. You'll see his wuss tactic in play...After reading all of it, make your own mind up as to what happened. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Not really. Technically, he was right and you were wrong. Denver was a really bad team just like he and I said. He shouldn't have weinered out of the bet though, like I said at the time. Seems like a draw to me.
Not debating that... I was clear about not betting with 8-8 in play. He wanted to keep it, but recently said he was clear about the 7 win piece with no 8-8. I proved that to be untrue and I never wussed out of a bet because he never took 8-8 off the table. His recent version of what happened was inaccurate...
I offered a bet to BlackOp, he declined. TEX jumps in with his own offer of a bet - I brought up the 8-8 finish and that if it was a factor in him winning the bet, I was out. He supported the 8-8 stance and that's fine, but I was clear that was not accepting a bet with 8-8 in play. This past week, he was prancing around as if he took 8-8 off the table and was clear about 7 wins... I posted his comments proving his story to be untrue.
That's it, plain and simple. All this recent pontificating by TEX is noise.
More context, from 10/16/2017 (7-10 days after the original offer to BlackOp and counter by TEX) / post #17847
A week after his initial offering of the bet, 8-8 as a push was still on the table and YOU were even trying to get him to accept it and take it off.
I scrolled for 3 pages after this and TEX never addressed it... all he did was refer passingly to a bet that was never accepted.
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Mania and TEX really need this bet. There's a lot of pent up frustration between the two. Let's make this happen. 7-9 or worse TEX wins. 9-7 or better Mania wins. 8-8 is a push. After last night's game, that's more than fair odds for both. I think it doesn't need a perma exile for the loser though. Sig, avy, and a break till next season should do. Neither would welch like that turd know mo.
On #17823, a few threads earlier.. again, all I wanted was 8-8 off the table. I had zero interest in a bet that left a winner due to a tie. I'm done with you now and this topic is tiring.
Originally Posted by TEX:
Why? Because YOU say so? Again - You said "No collapse & 9/10 wins." To that I said that I'd bet you a self forever ban from this site, that the Donx would NOT finish above .500. Then you changed it to fit your narrative and to give yourself an OUT - like a typical Wuss (using your word here). Again, the bet was NOT on finishing .500 - it was that the Donx would not finish ABOVE.500 and win 9/10 games. Finishing .500 is on my side of the parameter because .500< 9/10 wins - all day - every day - except apparently not in your wussy world. It's the same thing as saying that the Donx will NOT win more than 8 games - is that better? Do you accept it worded that way? With no mention of .500??? Again, 8 wins is less than 9/10 wins, which is what I said they would not reach all along...
It's YOU who is diving head first in a gray area and trying to play it safe by changing the fact that 8 wins should not be considered less than 9/10 wins. It's a wuss tactic - exactly what I expected from you. :-)
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Originally Posted by TEX:
Dang dude, you're changing the terms to fit your narrative. This is very simple...
You said 9 or 10 wins. I said the Donx would not finish above .500. (9 wins or more) Nothing "safe" about it. Pretty clear that anything under 9 wins is on my side of the betting line, and last I checked .500 (8 wins) is certainly that, because it's less than 9 or 10 wins. Got it?
Again... you indeed did say they would not finish above .500 (solid gray area - not saying they will have a losing record, might be even), if I'm doing a bet with you, you're taking the 'losing' record side of the equation. I'm not making a bet where .500 is safe. Don't want it, don't take it.
Originally Posted by TEX:
Whatever wuss. You're a shit talking poser. You dont get to put your narrative on my bet. 8 wins is less than 9 or 10 all day long. That was the original proposition. Again, Clear as hell except to you because you're full of shit. I find that interesting...
Originally Posted by New World Order:
8-8 means bet voided?
Originally Posted by TEX:
Not in my book. He said 9/10 wins. I said Donx would not finish above .500. Pretty clear 8 - 8 is less than 9/10 all day long. He says its a "gray area" Its only gray through his orange colored Mule Tool glasses. Now he's trying to change the original terms. Its all here in this this thread.
You're truly bent out of shape over this... too bad BlackOp didn't take the original bet, which is how all this started. Finishing .500 is like kissing your sister, which I'm sure you've enjoyed... but it's not something to win a bet on. So, I guess you're leaving it and crying foul. So be it.
Hell on 11/8 - #18,349 you posted this to BlackOp... never once changed your commentary.
Originally Posted by TEX:
While that is certainly true, you did not take the Mile High Mule Tool's bet - Had you, he would now be LONG GONE.! :-)
I tried to help out, but he would not take my bet that they would finish no better than .500. Missed opportunities... :-)
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It was a fun trip down memory lane. Boils down to this... YOU NEVER changed the terms. The point of all the noise this week is because you recently said you did take 8-8 off the table and you continued to call me out about it. It's just untrue.
Originally Posted by TEX:
IMO, he wussed out and tried to change the meaning of my bet, so it would not look like he was wussing out. Typical tactic of his - use a bunch of words to try and confuse the issue and assign his meaning to what I was saying / posing. Say it enough and you believe it... Dont get caught up in any stupid mind game. The bet was that they would not even finish .500. When the MH Mule Tool came back and said his BS about not wanting to take a lame 8 -8 bet, I was very clear and further defined it to mean that the bet I was posing was not for the LP Broncos to finish 8 - 8 , but rather for them to not even finish 8 - 8. I further explained that to mean no more than 7 wins - which clearly meant they would have a losing record. He kept stringing it out and never accepted it because that's what he does with everything - its always talk..talk...talk....Then the Broncos lost again and I just dropped it because it was clear that he was not gonna take me up on it. Thats what realy happened...Now that this has resurfaced again, and this is the off season, Ill make time and go back and find all our exchanges on the posed bet and re-post them. You'll see his wuss tactic in play...After reading all of it, make your own mind up as to what happened.
Who uses lots of words to distort? Hahaha... look, i found your statements and posted them for you to see. You were clear that 8-8 was on your side of the bet, so I was out. If you changed your stance well after that... it’s news to me, and you would have to show it. Go find that comment where you agreed that 8-8 was a push and I'll say I was incorrect with my version of how this transpired. I looked for 3+ pages after the comments posted below and never found that comment from you, and those 3+ pages covered 2 weeks of games.
Had you changed your terms to take 8-8 off the table, I would have accepted. Hell, I believe Pasta and/or NWO posted as much at the time about why wouldn't you do that. Good luck.
I doubt more than 3 people care at this point... just think, all you had to do is remove 8-8 from the bet and you wouldn't be reading this right now. You never altered your terms, that's the point of all this.
Originally Posted by TEX:
IMO, he wussed out and tried to change the meaning of my bet, so it would not look like he was wussing out. Typical tactic of his - use a bunch of words to try and confuse the issue and assign his meaning to what I was saying / posing. Say it enough and you believe it... Dont get caught up in any stupid mind game. The bet was that they would not even finish .500. When the MH Mule Tool came back and said his BS about not wanting to take a lame 8 -8 bet, I was very clear and further defined it to mean that the bet I was posing was not for the LP Broncos to finish 8 - 8 , but rather for them to not even finish 8 - 8. I further explained that to mean no more than 7 wins - which clearly meant they would have a losing record. He kept stringing it out and never accepted it because that's what he does with everything - its always talk..talk...talk....Then the Broncos lost again and I just dropped it because it was clear that he was not gonna take me up on it. Thats what realy happened...Now that this has resurfaced again, and this is the off season, Ill make time and go back and find all our exchanges on the posed bet and re-post them. You'll see his wuss tactic in play...After reading all of it, make your own mind up as to what happened.
grammatically, i am a terrible person. but this is bayud :-) [Reply]
As said last week on @1043TheFan, @StingRay56 and @livinglegend_44 are putting weight back on. I believe Ray will have 5th year option picked up and deliver big season. Walker as DE will be back at home. I am optimistic about his sophomore season as well #Denver7https://t.co/4UzZp4huxn
I like Ray and they should keep him around... Walker also has good upside and hope the best for him in his sophomore season. Play Walker at DE, not LB and let's see what happens. [Reply]
