He, in fact, did not have funding secured. So they're going after him for misleading shareholders.
Oh. Thanks. For some damn reason I thought it was already done. I am obviously the dumbest bastard that ever lived.
That will set an interesting precedent if the SEC wins the suit.
CEOs personal social media acts as a formal company communication? That’s .... rough man. I pretty much agree in this specific instance, but still that’s an interesting precedent. So if Satya Nadella posts a picture of him eating an apple for breakfast can the SEC say he intended to show that they are taking over apple and when they don’t SEC can tune him up?
Like I said, I think In this case I agree, but it’s a precedent that could get freaking weird man.
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Honestly, that might not be the worst thing in the world. The dude clearly needs to step back a bit and get some sleep.
Yeah, it seems like he's burned out and become pretty erratic. It's too bad he didn't have a board that would've forced him to bring in help with operations.
Buehler - I think criminal cases get referred over to the DOJ. The SEC is civil cases*
edit: wanted to add. I imagine that's on purpose because it's easier to win civil cases? Finance, insider trading and intent is hard enough to prove already [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage:
Yeah, it seems like he's burned out and become pretty erratic. It's too bad he didn't have a board that would've forced him to bring in help with operations.
Buehler - I think criminal cases get referred over to the DOJ. The SEC is civil cases
Right on. I was all the way wrong on that. [Reply]
Guess he changed his mind. Musk steps down as chairman (but will stay on as CEO) and pays a $20 million fine. Tesla pays another $20m and will appoint two new independent directors. Board committee will also be formed to oversee his communications.
Ouch. A $20M tweet? Essentially $40M if he has most of the stock. Yikes. I was wondering what went on when he said he stepped away from Twitter on Rogans podcast. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Ouch. A $20M tweet? Essentially $40M if he has most of the stock. Yikes. I was wondering what went on when he said he stepped away from Twitter on Rogans podcast.
To be fair, he's worth about $20B. For someone making $50k per year, this would be like a $50 fine for him and a $50 fine for the company. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
To be fair, he's worth about $20B. For someone making $50k per year, this would be like a $50 fine for him and a $50 fine for the company.
No, that math only works if someone has a $50K net worth.
Your point is taken. But I’m sure it’s still a shit check to write because you’re too undisciplined to operate Twitter. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Ouch. A $20M tweet? Essentially $40M if he has most of the stock. Yikes. I was wondering what went on when he said he stepped away from Twitter on Rogans podcast.
It's going to cost him way more than that.. this is just the government. Damaged investors and their vampire like lawyers will be on this for years.
He's not that liquid wealthy, Daface. He's fairly levered into his Tesla ownership by all accounts. Dunno, what 20 million does but there is a reason he's far more worried about short sellers than most execs. He could be margin called if Tesla drops to the low 200s from what I've read. If I were an investor I'd think it was pretty neat an executive was willing to risk so much. Dudes all in to some extent [Reply]
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But in the race for returns in the past year, passively managed funds won again: Just 36% of actively managed U.S. stock funds outperformed index mutual funds and exchange-traded funds in the year ended June 30, according to data compiled by research firm Morningstar Inc. That is down from the 43% that did so in 2017.
That's some pretty big sector rotation out of financials last week. Banks got a rate increase and it sounds like they'll get another one in Dec. barring the world falling apart. Might be some bargains
also, it's covered up in this screenshot but GE down another 7+%. That thing seems to have no bottom. The stock price has fallen so much I think the dividend yield is about back to where it was before they cut it. 4 and a quarter [Reply]
Sometimes when I go to check the stock market performance for the day, I have an idle dream that I'll log on to discover that the market is up 75,000 points and I'm suddenly rich. Like, someone invented faster than light travel or something and the market is reacting. Does anyone else ever have those thoughts when you're about to check? [Reply]