- Early career production - Dynamic threat downfield & after the catch - Elite speed & start-stop ability - Fluid mover w/ good route running chops - Ball tracking is A+
Not entirely sure why the vibe isn't higher when talking about him in the WR class. pic.twitter.com/dv3JjdyZgh
I'll write something fresh about Worthy tomorrow morning now that he's a Chief to lay out how he's more than speed, but for now here's an excerpt from article linked in the below tweet... https://t.co/EcW7QtUrFFpic.twitter.com/811ahCEfMS
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I said he was very good against Baltimore and good in several other games. But starting in week 2 we've seen this tentative play where he just looks slow to process.
He's left probably 6-8 scores on the field this year through 10 games. That's...a problem. To say nothing of the 1st downs he's left out there.
He's just been REALLY ordinary. And you continue to point to the handful of good plays he makes and you have me convinced you're just not watching a lot of football outside of KC.
A BUNCH of QBs make those plays now. Half the league can probably put together a 10-15 play reel that is as good as what Mahomes has this year. He fundamentally changed the way the position is played - and suddenly he's not playing it that way.
People want to point the finger at Nagy and the playcalling but the fact is the personnel has been changing, the OL has struggled recently and the weapons aren’t there.
One of the biggest problems I’m seeing on offense is RB. We never replaced McKinnon. He was such a dynamic receiving weapon for us. 9 receiving TD’s in 2022 was a big reason we were successful. 4 last year in only 12 games.
Guess how many receiving TD’s we have from a RB this year? 1. That’s literally it. It’s non-existent. Perine is the closest thing we have to McKinnon.
They need to start having Mecole line up in the backfield and get some designed passes to the flat to stretch the LB’s and utilize speed there.
Toney was awful but he did provide that piece of the offense to us at times last year. We just don’t have it right now and it’s a major major problem. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
People want to point the finger at Nagy and the playcalling but the fact is the personnel has been changing, the OL has struggled recently and the weapons aren’t there.
One of the biggest problems I’m seeing on offense is RB. We never replaced McKinnon. He was such a dynamic receiving weapon for us. 9 receiving TD’s in 2022 was a big reason we were successful. 4 last year in only 12 games.
Guess how many receiving TD’s we have from a RB this year? 1. That’s literally it. It’s non-existent. Perine is the closest thing we have to McKinnon.
They need to start having Mecole line up in the backfield and get some designed passes to the flat to stretch the LB’s and utilize speed there.
Toney was awful but he did provide that piece of the offense to us at times last year. We just don’t have it right now and it’s a major major problem.
Perine had 50 receptions for 455 yards last year with the broncos. This season he has 174 so far on pace for 296.
That makes zero sense. We could kill 2 birds with one stone using him more. We would get a lot more production from our passing game and most importantly, if you run a few RB screens behind the pass rush, it forces the pass rushers to be less aggressive which helps out the line and in turn allows you to run longer developing downfield plays.
It's the kind of stuff that makes me want to accept the "they're saving things for the playoffs" cope. But...who the fuck saves RB screens lol. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Perine had 50 receptions for 455 yards last year with the broncos. This season he has 174 so far on pace for 296.
That makes zero sense. We could kill 2 birds with one stone using him more. We would get a lot more production from our passing game and most importantly, if you run a few RB screens behind the pass rush, it forces the pass rushers to be less aggressive which helps out the line and in turn allows you to run longer developing downfield plays.
It's the kind of stuff that makes me want to accept the "they're saving things for the playoffs" cope. But...who the fuck saves RB screens lol.
Not to mention Hunt isn't exactly chopped liver out of the backfield either. Well, when he's not getting mashed into the LOS 20+ times a game. [Reply]
He also had 238 yards rushing on 4.5ypc. Meanwhile this year he has 33 less rushing attempts than Carson Steele :-) Someone make it make sense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
He also had 238 yards rushing on 4.5ypc. Meanwhile this year he has 33 less rushing attempts than Carson Steele :-) Someone make it make sense.
Can't.
We've wildly underutilized Perine. Watching Steele blow a blitz pickup every single game is just driving me completely insane. [Reply]
Yeah, I'm really not understanding why they completely shift away from Worthy the rest of the game after he makes a mistake but that dude keeps getting chances. Neat story, it's cute that he has a pet crocodile and all that jazz, but he's just a massive liability on the field. My hope is Thornton was brought in to replace Steele as a returner once Pacheco gets back and he's no longer needed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mahomes007:
I remember those seasons, not too long ago, where each game we expected an average of high 200s or low 300 yards per game, at least 2 or 3 TD's on average, and no picks. That would be your typical Mahomes game, game in and game out. He has regressed, and it's over a long enough stretch where I could see this no longer being an extended slump of sorts and just his relative norm moving forward. A bit sad to think about. Perhaps he did peak early in his career? Every player's career arc is different.
Irregardless of whether the team continues to be able to win Super Bowl(s) or not.
I hate to pick at low hanging fruit, but wtf is this?
Look I get that Mahomes has had 2 incredibly ordinary seasons, but now we're saying he's regressed and that's it? The Patrick we once knew is long gone and we'll never get him back?
I just can't in good faith engage in actual football convos because whenever anything bad happens to the Chiefs, the gluttons for punishment come out of the wood work and start spewing this nonsense. [Reply]
Honestly can't stop thinking about the first half of the Bills game... they need to force feed this kid targets nonstop into the playoffs. He is more than a go route pony and has now shown it.
This could be the offenses golden ticket and we got a couple of trash games on the schedule to test it out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
We HAVE a guy like McKinnon.
Perine is absolutely capable of being every bit the player McKinnon was.
For whatever reason, we keep trying to make Steele a thing when every single snap he's taken should've been one that Perine took instead.
Its bizarre.
McKinnon had some short area speed and slipperiness that we haven't had since he left.
But it's not happening at this point in the season. I agree Perine is the guy. I said as much in the Steele thread, Perine needs all his snaps. All of them. [Reply]
