Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
No-one is saying Clark has done anything racist. The issue some folks have had with the whole Clark mania is the PRIVILEGE she appears to be getting. Called the "goat" without winning a ring. First class flights from day one. 25m dollar deal from Nike without even playing a wnba game whilst the likes of Aja Wilson is a champion and mvp and got nothing. And when Dianna said "reality is coming" she was dismissed and ridiculed. These situations will put chips on shoulders and the fire has only been fueled by the likes of Charles Barkley and LeBron making irresponsible statements that further strengthen the unfounded notion that "all the players hate Clark".
It was a bad play but on a previous Fever possession after Boston scored Clark ran up in Carter's face mouthing off stuff. What was said? We don't know but it clearly was enough to get Carter riled up.
Do you know most of Clark's teammates are young too? Boston is Caitlin's age (22), Smith is one year older (23). Berger is 24 etc. The veteran Mitchell is 28 but she's a small guard. Boston has done her best to stop these confrontations but she's not an enforcer. And let's be honest hard play doesn't mean Clark is being targeted. Teams are gonna do everything they can to stop her and being physical is just part of the game.
Cameron Brink has been roughed up, so has Alliyah Edwards, Rakiah Jackson and all the other rookies. And Paige, Juju and the other stars will get it too. That's the league which is why people screaming "racism" is silly. Angel has been getting beaten up and has had to leave the court several times after being roughed up. Has Clark? Nope. So it's not a Clark "thing" it's a rookie thing at the end of the day.
People like jemele hill insist her popularity is due to being white and straight and “pretty.” It’s not even implying racism… they directly said it. And at some point it will register with some of you that clark earns money because people pay to see her and buy her merch. Period. They aren’t doing the same for players like Sabrina or Aja for the same reasons Mike trout or Tim Duncan or kawhi aren’t marketable.
It isn’t privilege, it is sponsors bidding on her to earn a piece. And the wnba can choose to either get on board and get the perks and popularity they’ve been griping about not having. Or they can do their current dumb shit trying to get the world to like her less because she doesn’t “represent” them and mold her into the same image and dull style of play that turned people off in the first place. And that isn’t just physical welcome to the league stuff, that is the players blatant resentment for her and insistence on spotlighting other boring players instead. This isn’t even about turning men off to the game. This is about all the young girls out there watching as the women they’ve come to idolize isn’t being accepted by a bunch of petty jealous women. And if they aren’t careful those fans they’ve been trying to pull in are going to piss off those girls and especially the parents who say enough is enough with this shit.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen this level of resentment to the golden goose. It never happened with lebron or Steph. It didn’t happen with tiger.instead it is coming from the very athletes who need her the most. [Reply]
Somebody just update me when this league has been saved and is finally watchable thanks to Clark. I would take some free time and watch her myself but I'm a straight American male and there are other options for us here.
I think they're too poor in the UK to buy the real sports packages where they have the MLB and NBA and NFL; so they all have like the Tier 3 package where you get the WNBA, soccer and horse riding channels. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
People like jemele hill insist her popularity is due to being white and straight and “pretty.” It’s not even implying racism… they directly said it. And at some point it will register with some of you that clark earns money because people pay to see her and buy her merch. Period. They aren’t doing the same for players like Sabrina or Aja for the same reasons Mike trout or Tim Duncan or kawhi aren’t marketable.
It isn’t privilege, it is sponsors bidding on her to earn a piece. And the wnba can choose to either get on board and get the perks and popularity they’ve been griping about not having. Or they can do their current dumb shit trying to get the world to like her less because she doesn’t “represent” them and mold her into the same image and dull style of play that turned people off in the first place. And that isn’t just physical welcome to the league stuff, that is the players blatant resentment for her and insistence on spotlighting other boring players instead. This isn’t even about turning men off to the game. This is about all the young girls out there watching as the women they’ve come to idolize isn’t being accepted by a bunch of petty jealous women. And if they aren’t careful those fans they’ve been trying to pull in are going to piss off those girls and especially the parents who say enough is enough with this shit.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen this level of resentment to the golden goose. It never happened with lebron or Steph. It didn’t happen with tiger.instead it is coming from the very athletes who need her the most.
Steph wasn't given anything coming into the league. It was earned. But Clark comes in the league and folks are putting her on a pedestal that she is only on because of the privilege she has attained. Would she get this hype if she was black, gay and a progressive? No chance. Clark fits into a box that many in white America are comfortable with. Coupled with her exciting play. If one of those aspects wasn't there would she be hyped? Imo no.
Players in the league owe Clark nothing. Caleb Williams has had a bunch of hype too and you can bet your bottom dollar he's gonna catch hell from defenses and nobody will be screaming about it. Why? Because he doesn't hold a privilege card.
Clark just signed a huge deal that will set her up for life. She's not suffering trust me. But it will be very interesting to see if Juju's rise continue whether the same privilege will be afforded to her? And if not then it will confirm that race has played a huge role in why she's so popular with fans and sponsors alike [Reply]
Originally Posted by K9Texan:
Look, let's just be honest and stop avoiding the elephant in the room. Caitlin is hated because she's WHITE. You're welcome.
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Steph wasn't given anything coming into the league. It was earned. But Clark comes in the league and folks are putting her on a pedestal that she is only on because of the privilege she has attained. Would she get this hype was black, gay and a progressive? No chance. Clark fits into a box that many in white America are comfortable. Coupled with her exciting play. If one of those aspects wasn't there would she be hyped? Imo no.
Players in the league owe Clark nothing. Caleb Williams has had a bunch of hype too and you can bet your bottom dollar he's gonna catch hell from defenses and nobody will be screaming about it. Why? Because he doesn't hold a privilege card.
Clark just signed a huge deal that will set her up for life. She's not suffering trust me. But it will be very interesting to see if Juju's rise continue whether the same privilege will be afforded to her? And if not then it will confirm that race has played a huge role in why she's so popular with fans and sponsors alike
Sabrina ionescu is straight, white and was a college phenom. Kelsey plum is too. You keep insisting that nobody is shouting racism while directly saying clark is only wildly popular because she’s straight and white. So maybe we can knock this shit off that this has anything to do with that and more to do with clark having a highlight reel style of play. Juju and paige have way more marketable styles of play than most wnba’ers which will make the game more watchable but they aren’t gonna have the same marketability as clark. For the same reason dirk and Duncan were mildly marketable while curry became an out of the world superstar. Before Steph earned anything people were going apeshit over the crazy shots he was making. And unlike the wnba, other nba superstars smiled and laughed and fell of their chairs. They didn’t resent Steph for teaching young kids to start chucking up half court shots instead of working on fundamentals. They didn’t resent lebron as a high schooler at a time when many felt he was going to save a dying nba.
And Caleb Williams is a ridiculous comparison. Yeah defenses will play him tough and hit him hard and sometimes cheap shot him. He is entering an already popular sport with mega superstars. Not a damn person is going to claim his draft position was gifted to him because he’s black and straight. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Imo Carter was anticipating Boston passing Clark the ball and she jumped in too quickly. Don't think there was anything malicious about it just a clumsy play. But because it happened to Clark folks want to make a big song and dance about it smh :-)
You're a blatant hater if you really think that. Incapable of any honest debate on the subject. Just come clean, or don't. Everyone knows your game anyway. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Sabrina ionescu is straight, white and was a college phenom. Kelsey plum is too. You keep insisting that nobody is shouting racism while directly saying clark is only wildly popular because she’s straight and white. So maybe we can knock this shit off that this has anything to do with that and more to do with clark having a highlight reel style of play. Juju and paige have way more marketable styles of play than most wnba’ers which will make the game more watchable but they aren’t gonna have the same marketability as clark. For the same reason dirk and Duncan were mildly marketable while curry became an out of the world superstar. Before Steph earned anything people were going apeshit over the crazy shots he was making. And unlike the wnba, other nba superstars smiled and laughed and fell of their chairs. They didn’t resent Steph for teaching young kids to start chucking up half court shots instead of working on fundamentals. They didn’t resent lebron as a high schooler at a time when many felt he was going to save a dying nba.
Sabrina is ROMANIAN and never made noise in march madness. Kelsey Plum's mom appears to have an ethnic background herself and Kelsey too never made much runs with her team in March madness. So neither of them fit into the same box that Clark sits in so it's a frivolous comparison.
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And Caleb Williams is a ridiculous comparison. Yeah defenses will play him tough and hit him hard and sometimes cheap shot him. He is entering an already popular sport with mega superstars. Not a damn person is going to claim his draft position was gifted to him because he’s black and straight.
Er the comparison IS HYPE and how the opposition is gonna play against him. You agreed that defenses are gonna want to embarrass him right? So why are people mad about opposition playing Clark tough then? IT'S THE SAME THING. Yet you got people saying the league "should let Clark cook" smh. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Imo Carter was anticipating Boston passing Clark the ball and she jumped in too quickly. Don't think there was anything malicious about it just a clumsy play. But because it happened to Clark folks want to make a big song and dance about it smh :-)
Lol, Wth?
Let’s play a game. Same exact incident, except it’s the NBA, and that’s Steph getting shoved down. You think Draymon just stands there and doesn’t do anything about it?
