Playing a little game trying to narrow down our preferred RD 1 WR in the upcoming draft.
Thats a big difference in cost to us to move up between pick 32 and pick 15. I guess they will have a possible slot figured out as we get closer. [Reply]
The whole “isn’t #1 on his team” thing is not a good factor to review when the other guys are good, too.
You could have made that complaint about Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. Or Justin Jefferson. Jameson Williams was the #3 guy behind those two at Ohio State.
Being #2 option behind a guy who clearly is getting drafted in the top 5 picks or top 10 picks.
So I don’t like it’s a knock on Egbuka at all that he isn’t the top target at Ohio State
To me, if you can get him at a discount because he’s playing with Harrison and has a bad QB, that’s a win. [Reply]
Finding true difference-makers who make a quarterback’s job easier is not easy nor cheap in terms of draft capital. Franklin fits the mold of some recent explosive, physically gifted draft picks like Rashee Rice and Brandon Aiyuk. But he is lighter than both, despite being a speedy asset.
Every team won’t value a receiver who stands 6’2″ and weighs under 190 pounds as much as others. In the right environment, Franklin can be a spectacular No. 2 receiver who punishes defenses willing to guard him one-on-one or facing a quarterback who will break the pocket and extend plays until Franklin is streaking wide open across the field.
Franklin is more than just a speedy threat. He’s a trustworthy player who is better on the sideline and on contested catches than most thin receivers. That’s not where he makes his money, as his speed is the rare trait worth investing in.
The pro comparison I landed on for Oregon’s Troy Franklin is former New York Jets, Carolina Panthers, and current Miami Dolphins WR Robbie “Chosen” Anderson.
While Franklin might not be a bonafide WR1 with his lacking mass and play strength, he has the tools to be a Pro Bowl-level complementary threat and vertical attacker whose combined speed, quickness, and frame will make him a nightmare for DBs — much like Anderson was at his ceiling.
PFF's #14 WR in 2024 NFL Draft:
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Franklin will be a top target for teams looking to add a receiver who will allow them to push the ball downfield consistently. He has smooth strides and good top speed to be a vertical threat in the pros, and his route running has become more polished in 2023.
DraftBuzz.com:
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-Fluid athlete with explosive burst and speed to stretch the field and breeze past defenders.
-Has a quick first step and gets to top speed in a hurry.
-He’s extremely dangerous in the open field, showing the vision and creativity to run through entire defenses.
-Has elite balance tight-roping the sideline and in-and-out of his breaks, showing excellent start-stop ability and burst.
-Franklin fights his way off the line of scrimmage against press coverage, showing quick, violent hands and good balance.
-Although Franklin is more of a possession target than a field stretcher, his competitive demeanor and ability to make plays after the catch make him a threat in the middle of the field.
-Has elite speed and cutting ability and good hands and toughness. Lacks the ideal size, but has a similar body type to Antonio Brown.
-He’s dangerous in catch-and-run situations, although his run-after-catch ability could be further enhanced.
My questions:
1. Is he a WR #1 in the NFL?
2. Is he really 6'3? 4.3?
3. Does he create separation? ...lots of 50:50 jump ball types this year.
1. Maybe.
2. Probably not.
3. Who knows?
WR's are kind of a crapshoot. It comes down to what's between his ears, he's got enough physical ability. [Reply]
Odunze and Franklin with the first two picks. Those two and Rice and we are good to transition to our next phase on offense. I'm tagging and trading Jones to get into position to make this happen. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Coogs:
Odunze and Franklin with the first two picks. Those two and Rice and we are good to transition to our next phase on offense. I'm tagging and trading Jones to get into position to make this happen.
I'm not sure I'm ready to give up Jones for a rookie WR. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I'm not sure I'm ready to give up Jones for a rookie WR.
I get it. It's a tough decision. It's financial for me. We need the money to retain some other players, and the draft picks to rebuild the receiving core. [Reply]
We have $31m in Cap Space next offseason, and Chris Jones wants $30m per year, he's already owed $5m next season, so that leaves us with $6m. Let's say you need $5m for draft picks, so yeah, at first glance we're pretty strapped but seems obvious we let MVS go for +$12m, which gives us $13m.
Is $13m enough to also bring back Sneed? Maybe. If Sneed doesn't stay, that's enough to sign Gay, plus our other desirable FAs. We also have a few restructurable contracts with team friendly players like Thuney (Up to ~$9.5m), Kelce (Up to ~$8m), and Mahomes (Up to ~$6m). Two of which of been willing to restructure in the past.
Ultimately, it's possible for us to keep Chris Jones AND more.
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I don't think we're as strapped as fans think...
We have $31m in Cap Space next offseason, and Chris Jones wants $30m per year, he's already owed $5m next season, so that leaves us with $6m. Let's say you need $5m for draft picks, so yeah, at first glance we're pretty strapped but seems obvious we let MVS go for +$12m, which gives us $13m.
Is $13m enough to also bring back Sneed? Maybe. If Sneed doesn't stay, that's enough to sign Gay, plus our other desirable FAs. We also have a few restructurable contracts with team friendly players like Thuney (Up to ~$9.5m), Kelce (Up to ~$8m), and Mahomes (Up to ~$6m). Two of which of been willing to restructure in the past.
Ultimately, it's possible for us to keep Chris Jones AND more.
or am I missing something?
If we're not going to spend our money on a top defensive tackle, top defensive back, or top ILB... than what do we want to spend that money on? Who else is coming up for a contract in the near future that's more important? If you want a vet FA WR, why not ask our offense to restructure and make it happen? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Coogs:
Odunze and Franklin with the first two picks. Those two and Rice and we are good to transition to our next phase on offense. I'm tagging and trading Jones to get into position to make this happen.
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I don't think we're as strapped as fans think...
We have $31m in Cap Space next offseason, and Chris Jones wants $30m per year, he's already owed $5m next season, so that leaves us with $6m. Let's say you need $5m for draft picks, so yeah, at first glance we're pretty strapped but seems obvious we let MVS go for +$12m, which gives us $13m.
Is $13m enough to also bring back Sneed? Maybe. If Sneed doesn't stay, that's enough to sign Gay, plus our other desirable FAs. We also have a few restructurable contracts with team friendly players like Thuney (Up to ~$9.5m), Kelce (Up to ~$8m), and Mahomes (Up to ~$6m). Two of which of been willing to restructure in the past.
Ultimately, it's possible for us to keep Chris Jones AND more.
or am I missing something?
OTC shows KC at $51.6 million next year, and that’s before we let go of MVS and his $12 million in savings. [Reply]