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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2024/2025 KC Royals Offseason Thread***
GabyKeepsMeWarm 03:35 AM 10-11-2024
Royals went from 56-106 to 86-76.

Made the playoffs. Took out the Orioles on the road.

Lost in four games to the Yankees by 4 runs.

Finally got a bullpen.

Had two pitchers who will finish in the top five for the Cy Young.

Bobby Witt jr turned into a superstar likely being an MVP #2 to that phag in NY.

Salvy just kept doing Salvy stuff.

Vinnie came back from shoulder surgery and had a helluva year.

Cole Ragans had a full season. His arm didn’t fall off. He’s probably top five for Cy Young.

Seth Lugo is gonna finish top five for Cy Young. He’s like Rick Reed. And he’s ours for at least another season.

Brady Singer will get his next time with arbitration. And I’m ambivalent, but I know it’s damn hard to find healthy arms who could be be better as a 3/4 starter.

Michael Wacha was more than everything we could’ve ever wanted, but I say let that man fly unless he wants to take a dumb contract, which he won’t do.

That gives us Alec Marsh who was pretty great for his role.

And we have Wright coming in, plus Bubic who could start.

But this team needs another bat and wingman for Bobby. It’s perfect that Juan Soto would fill many roles, but it ain’t happening.

Adames is someone I like. And we can dangle Massey/Garcia. Just a thought.

This team…. I hope they go into the offseason working hard, and I hope they got the glitter out of their eyes.

Good team with obvious weakness, and a perennial superstar ready to erupt….

Sherman and JJ should be on the phone soon
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ChiefsCountry 04:30 PM 11-15-2024
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
I don't mind paying $20/month. All you're really paying for is April, May, June, July, August, and September. I just want a better app that doesn't suck shit.

I don't think FanDuel will **** over everyone of the broadcasters and their viewers, but you never and that's why RSNs need to die off.
You can get in on Amazon Prime as in add on next season. Wouldn't have to use the app.
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Pablo 05:09 AM 11-16-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
You can get in on Amazon Prime as in add on next season. Wouldn't have to use the app.
This is for sure happening? Cuz that would be great.

Ballys is a piece of shit and I hated giving those fucks money every month
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BlackHelicopters 05:20 AM 11-16-2024
Didn’t read the whole thread. Are the Royals going to be on Prime next season?
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Ocotillo 12:24 PM 11-16-2024
Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters:
Didn’t read the whole thread. Are the Royals going to be on Prime next season?
If they reupp with FanDuel (formerly Bally Sports). The Royals haven't reached an agreement with FanDuel yet.
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Ocotillo 12:30 PM 11-16-2024
Jac Caglianone will bat third for Surprise in tonight's Arizona Fall League Championship Game that will be televised on MLB Network at 7 p.m. CST.
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ChiefsCountry 03:06 PM 11-16-2024

Sources: You Reds, Royals discussing trade of Jonathan India, Brady Singer. With @ctrent: https://t.co/LdUvGQOmnB

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) November 16, 2024

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poolboy 03:15 PM 11-16-2024
Where would he play...third...utility move around?
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cmh6476 06:57 PM 11-16-2024
Here's some context I found from an espn source:

The Reds and Royals are discussing a trade that would send second baseman Jonathan India to Kansas City in exchange for right-hander Brady Singer, according to a report from C. Trent Rosencrans and Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. Rosenthal adds that a deal between the sides is not considered close and that India is one of “several” hitters the Royals are looking at as they consider dealing from their rotation depth.
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TomBarndtsTwin 06:39 AM 11-17-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
I’m fine with trading Brady as I think he’s reached his ceiling here. Brady is who he is at this point. A solid 3 or 4 starter, who will sometimes look great and who will sometimes melt down and get lit up.

Now, all that said, I think based on this past season, he’s likely more valuable than India and it’s no secret that the Reds have a major logjam in their infield, so I think the Reds make an ideal trade partner for KC.

But instead of doing Singer straight up for India, I would ask for another name of that young infield talent. The Reds started Jeimer Candelario at 3B last year and by all accounts he is going to be their starting 3B this year. They also have 3B Noelvi Marte who they traded for. Hes their #2 overall prospect and listed as the #29 prospect in baseball, so obviously he’s not going anywhere. But there’s another Top 3B in their system, guy by the name of Cam Collier, who was a 1st round pick of theirs 3 years ago. LH hittier with raw power potential with solid defense who has some promise. There is some concern about whether he’ll stick at 3B long term, but he’s got enough raw talent it’s worth taking a shot at it. If he doesn’t stick at 3B, he’ll move to the OF (probably RF) where KC also doesn’t have a lot of prospects long term. But 3B is where he’s at for now. It’s no secret Royals have a giant black hole at 3B for near future, so I would try and put together a Singer/someone else package for India and Collier.

India has played 2B his entire career in MLB, but his last season in minors before coming up he was a 3B and I know the Royals haven’t given up on Massey yet (dude can just never stay healthy). Trade for India and he’s your leadoff guy in front off Bobby. You can start him off at 3B, but he will likely move back over to 2B when Massey inevitably gets hurt or struggles and then he’ll probably become your full time 2B going forward. Still leaves a bit of a hole at 3B, but at least you’ve got a guy in your minors who could potentially fill it a couple years down the road.

For corner OF, since Bellinger not available now (still sad about that :-) ) I might take a chance on Tyler O’Neil. Yes, health is a real issue with him, but he’s a corner OF with 2 gold gloves in his pocket (his defensive metrics did drop off last year, but think that’s more due to health and playing in Fenway) and hits for power (30 HR guy consistently IF he stays healthy). Yes, he’s streaky and yes he will strikes out a bit, but he kind of fits the bill for what the Royals need IF he can stay healthy.

It sounds like the Royals are trying to work something out on India which would fill the lead off spot and give us a guy who can draw walks and get on base, but it will be interesting to see how they work a trade with Singer if that’s what they end up doing. I know we get down on the guy a lot (and I have been as well) but he’s a valuable trade chip.
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tk13 12:44 PM 11-17-2024
Yeah I wouldn't say it's the most exciting trade idea because of Singer's "potential" but I get it. It's 100% about finding a guy who takes walks to put in front of Bobby and Vinnie. It makes sense.

I was googling around a little bit and the interesting thing is I did find some talk before this season that the Reds were going to move him around more. Looks like he only played 2B though so that didn't happen. But it makes me wonder if JJ would bring him in to play 2B/3B/LF based on matchups.
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kstater 12:45 PM 11-17-2024
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
You can get in on Amazon Prime as in add on next season. Wouldn't have to use the app.
Mlb will be an add on.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...MzCzQHUyLTLB37
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Ocotillo 02:39 PM 11-17-2024

Jac attack!@Royals No. 1 prospect Jac Caglianone shows out with three hits in the Fall League Championship Game. pic.twitter.com/HQGhIP3dX2

— MLB Pipeline (@MLBPipeline) November 17, 2024

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KCUnited 02:42 PM 11-17-2024
Jac and Vinnie the Mashquash Brothers
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GabyKeepsMeWarm 03:53 PM 11-17-2024
Originally Posted by Ocotillo:
Appreciate you for sharing the video. But those three "hits" don't get me very excited. That's maybe one hit at the MLB level. Dude has got the Eric Hosmer chop big-time, hammering the ball into the ground to the right side. Yuck. He definitely needs time in the minors. Wonder where he plays to begin 2025. High A? AA?
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Ocotillo 06:47 PM 11-17-2024
Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm:
Appreciate you for sharing the video. But those three "hits" don't get me very excited. That's maybe one hit at the MLB level. Dude has got the Eric Hosmer chop big-time, hammering the ball into the ground to the right side. Yuck. He definitely needs time in the minors. Wonder where he plays to begin 2025. High A? AA?
That's funny you say that because Jac Caglianone had a 48.3% ground ball rate and a 29.2% fly ball rate at high Single-A Quad Cities in his pro debut.

That's definitely what you don't want to see from a slugger with grade 70 power.
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