Chiefs *****The Xavier Worthy Thread***** - Page 149

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
He is absolutely going to snap back to form, as he always does. Doesn't mean people need to be scared to say he sucks right now, because he definitely does. You can't even call yourself a knowledgeable football fan if you try to tell me he's not playing like shit. The excuses about defenses "figuring the league out" have proven to be BS as well, as other QBs are still tearing it up.

Now granted, his situation is less than perfect, but being the GOAT means you step up when things are not ideal. He has not been doing that, but I fully expect him to go into God mode when he needs to again.

100% This.
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Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Mahomes was bad, Worthy didn't make the play and could have.

Let's talk about how good Worthy looked on all the other plays. Shit this is what I've been waiting for. He looked dynamic and comfortable within the offense. He had his head around when he should have, and his hands looked good. Im excited to see where this goes now. Up to this point he looked like a faster MVS. He actually looks better doing things that aren't the deep ball that he's supposed to at worst be a one trick pony doing.

Ones a former MVP making 50 mil a season and ones a rook, this is on Patty, he needs to get his shit together and fast.
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Originally Posted by -King-:
That's fine for you. I personally like seeing Mahomes play well. In regular seasons and post seasons. My Sundays are A LOT more fun with Mahomes playing great. I'd rather 17 great weeks that lead to a SB MVP run than this shit we're seeing right now. But some people are different I guess

If 9-1, the 1 seed in the NFL, and coming off back to back Super Bowl Championships isn’t fun enough for your Sundays, I really don’t know what to tell you, man.

I’ve been emphatic through multiple threads that Mahomes isn’t playing well, but the doom and gloom that our Sundays are shit now feels like we’ve lost perspective from where this franchise came from.
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Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
If 9-1, the 1 seed in the NFL, and coming off back to back Super Bowl Championships isn’t fun enough for your Sundays, I really don’t know what to tell you, man.

I’ve been emphatic through multiple threads that Mahomes isn’t playing well, but the doom and gloom that our Sundays are shit now feels like we’ve lost perspective from where this franchise came from.

I don't understand this argument. Do you watch regular season games? Do you have an opinion on what you watched? How come you cant express it because they won a Superbowl last year and have a high chance of winning this year? What's the point of watching regular season games if all your takes are about not caring about the regular season and you only care about the results at the end of the season? Why even get on a Chiefs discussion board if you're not going to discuss the games that are being played currently and how they're being played?

Like I'm wrong for wanting the QB of the team I root for and spend a ridiculous amount of time watching and talking about to play well for 17 weeks of the season. I really don't get it :-) . But like I said, some people are different. You're okay with Mahomes playing like this. I'm not. I like when the elite QB of my favorite team plays elite.
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I mean it is what it is, Mahomes has 3 games this year under 200 yards with 2 picks, before this year that had never happened.
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Originally Posted by Mecca:
I mean it is what it is, Mahomes has 3 games this year under 200 yards with 2 picks, before this year that had never happened.

Yeah but have you considered that we won back to back championships?

I know that's not pertinent to what you posted, but it needs to be said for some reason.
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Originally Posted by -King-:
Yeah but have you considered that we won back to back championships?

I know that's not pertinent to what you posted, but it needs to be said for some reason.

I mean losing a bunch of guys to injury is a big part of it. Rice was obviously suppose to take a bunch of the load of what Kelce had been, now that's gone and you're seeing Kelce isn't dynamic anymore.

You lose your explosive RB you lose your WR that was suppose to bring the dynamic speed.

But none of this changes that Mahomes gets the deer in headlights look way to often. Bails on pockets before he should, so much so the Chargers and the Bills yesterday both used that set to encourage him to bail on a pocket and he did it every god damn time.

Hopkins is getting open really consistently why is he not your first read every time? Why are you holding the ball looking for big plays? Hit the top of your drop and throw.

You'd think the Chiefs were out there rocking with a bottom 5 OL the way people talk.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
He is absolutely going to snap back to form, as he always does. Doesn't mean people need to be scared to say he sucks right now, because he definitely does. You can't even call yourself a knowledgeable football fan if you try to tell me he's not playing like shit. The excuses about defenses "figuring the league out" have proven to be BS as well, as other QBs are still tearing it up.

Now granted, his situation is less than perfect, but being the GOAT means you step up when things are not ideal. He has not been doing that, but I fully expect him to go into God mode when he needs to again.

Of course history would say that Mahomes will bounce back and dominate in the playoffs like he usually has done (minus one half vs Cincy in the AFC Championship Game).

But I did think we'd see vintage Mahomes yesterday... arguably the biggest remaining game of the regular season, playing with as good a group of WR's as he's had available most of the season, Buffalo's defense is not great, etc.
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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Of course history would say that Mahomes will bounce back and dominate in the playoffs like he usually has done (minus one half vs Cincy in the AFC Championship Game).

But I did think we'd see vintage Mahomes yesterday... arguably the biggest remaining game of the regular season, playing with as good a group of WR's as he's had available most of the season, Buffalo's defense is not great, etc.

Him snapping back all 2022 after the Bengals abomination is why I'm sure he'll snap out of this funk too. Because he has never played worse or looked as mentally lost as he did that game and then he turned around and had an MVP season.
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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Of course history would say that Mahomes will bounce back and dominate in the playoffs like he usually has done (minus one half vs Cincy in the AFC Championship Game).

But I did think we'd see vintage Mahomes yesterday... arguably the biggest remaining game of the regular season, playing with as good a group of WR's as he's had available most of the season, Buffalo's defense is not great, etc.

The offense just isn't good, if you compare the talent level of the Chiefs offense to what is across the league you see where the problem is.

Injuries killed the upside of the offense.
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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
Of course history would say that Mahomes will bounce back and dominate in the playoffs like he usually has done (minus one half vs Cincy in the AFC Championship Game).

But I did think we'd see vintage Mahomes yesterday... arguably the biggest remaining game of the regular season, playing with as good a group of WR's as he's had available most of the season, Buffalo's defense is not great, etc.

This team looks tired. They’re getting everybody’s best shot every single week.

OL is getting outplayed and outworked yet again. You see it in Thuney, Creed and Trey. No team in this league is getting everybody’s best shot every week. We are literally every teams SB.

Getting the bye in week 6 sucks. That’s 12 weeks of hard nosed play. They need to lock in bc that’s bye week is so important for them this year.
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Originally Posted by RunKC:
This team looks tired. They’re getting everybody’s best shot every single week.

OL is getting outplayed and outworked yet again. You see it in Thuney, Creed and Trey. No team in this league is getting everybody’s best shot every week. We are literally every teams SB.

Getting the bye in week 6 sucks. That’s 12 weeks of hard nosed play. They need to lock in bc that’s bye week is so important for them this year.

Last week before the Broncos game, Nick Jacobs and Matt Derrick commented on how they did a light walkthrough on Thursday instead of the million plays Thursday, hard practice.

Said the team is tired.
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Originally Posted by Mecca:
The offense just isn't good, if you compare the talent level of the Chiefs offense to what is across the league you see where the problem is.

Injuries killed the upside of the offense.

If Mahomes goes back to his old self, this offense can still be a top 10 offense just from his greatness. The LT position is where the trouble is but our skill positions are no worse than the 2022 team.
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Originally Posted by -King-:
If Mahomes goes back to his old self, this offense can still be a top 10 offense just from his greatness. The LT position is where the trouble is but our skill positions are no worse than the 2022 team.

Agree. LT is an issue but the WR’s are much better now.

We have a problem at Rb though. There’s no explosion. I like Kareem but he’s a steady 4-5 yard player. There’s no juice.

And yeah it’s great to get Pacheco back but we haven’t had that playmaking RB in the passing game since McKinnon.

Look at what McKinnon gave us in 2022 and look at what we’ve had since? Enormous downgrade
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Originally Posted by RunKC:
Agree. LT is an issue but the WR’s are much better now.

We have a problem at Rb though. There’s no explosion. I like Kareem but he’s a steady 4-5 yard player. There’s no juice.

And yeah it’s great to get Pacheco back but we haven’t had that playmaking RB in the passing game since McKinnon.

Look at what McKinnon gave us in 2022 and look at what we’ve had since? Enormous downgrade

There just isn't any juice on the offense, even Hopkins at this stage is a really good possession guy.
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