- Early career production - Dynamic threat downfield & after the catch - Elite speed & start-stop ability - Fluid mover w/ good route running chops - Ball tracking is A+
Not entirely sure why the vibe isn't higher when talking about him in the WR class. pic.twitter.com/dv3JjdyZgh
I'll write something fresh about Worthy tomorrow morning now that he's a Chief to lay out how he's more than speed, but for now here's an excerpt from article linked in the below tweet... https://t.co/EcW7QtUrFFpic.twitter.com/811ahCEfMS
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Mahomes is not the sole issue on this offense, but he is the MVP and in the past he would overcome the flaws. Now he is becoming one of the flaws. A 15-11 TD:INT ratio is unacceptable. He's only had a single 300 yard passing game this season. He hasn't had a 7+ YPA since that 300 yard game... 6 weeks ago. He's simply playing like a mediocre game manager right now.
This is solid. Mahomes is not above criticism. And he willingly puts it on himself. They need to find out why this is happening. Personally, I think his play is bad mostly to do to lack of protection. But that's just my opinion. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Agreed with all of this.
Amazing how easy it is to agree with analysis like this when it doesn’t contain the usual suspects saying that he’s “broken” “sucks shit” or has “regressed in two straight seasons” (guess we’re just ignoring the whole Super Bowl MVP thing).
And you're ignoring the games before that Superbowl MVP. This has been an issue the past 2 years. It's just gotten worse this year.
Why are people so scared of words when it comes to Mahomes? He has regressed the past 2 years. He's not playing anywhere close to his usual standards. But some people are so hung up with the words people are using to describe his play that they want to gloss over the whole issue. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I agree but also......they lost their #1 WR, their "big FA WR" and have had to add and such around it.
Gonna need to have it really going in December and January.
That shit shouldn't matter. I'm talking average numbers here. 7 YPA isn't top of the class... its below average. Mahomes has been below below average for 5 weeks straight. You are telling me losing 1 receiver while gaining Deandre Hopkins turns Mahomes into a pumpkin? [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
How do you expect Veach to do that?
There’s not been a LT worth a shit in FA since Trent Williams, who Veach pursued with extreme aggressiveness.
No good LT prospects fall past pick 15. You want Veach to do a Hershel Walker type trade to move up that high? Bc that’s what it’s gonna take. 2 1st, 2 2nds and probably more.
If Mahomes is going to regress to this extent year to year in large part because of shit LT play, then yes, it probably needs to get done even if it's an overpay. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Yes. That's what the **** I've been saying for years at this point. Quit ****ing around with half measures and get him a ****ing LT he trusts.
I would think after what we're seeing this year, they will do just that. No more veteran stop gaps, no more hoping 2nd and 3rd rounders pan out. Just spend the money and/or picks and make it goddamn happen. I don't care if we win the SB again, you still go do this. End of story. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
And you're ignoring the games before that Superbowl MVP. This has been an issue the past 2 years. It's just gotten worse this year.
Why are people so scared of words when it comes to Mahomes? He has regressed the past 2 years. He's not playing anywhere close to his usual standards. But some people are so hung up with the words people are using to describe his play that they want to gloss over the whole issue.
Mahomes is 100% welcome to regress every season of his career if they all result in a Super Bowl MVP. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
How do you expect Veach to do that?
There’s not been a LT worth a shit in FA since Trent Williams, who Veach pursued with extreme aggressiveness.
No good LT prospects fall past pick 15. You want Veach to do a Hershel Walker type trade to move up that high? Bc that’s what it’s gonna take. 2 1st, 2 2nds and probably more.
Yes? If that's what it takes for Mahomes to be comfortable and play like himself, then that's an easy answer.
Like, if we traded away FAU and Worthy for a good left tackle that can protect Mahomes for the next 10 years, would anyone be upset? [Reply]
Also, why are we acting like it's impossible to improve at LT without massive investment. Morris is a bottom tier starter and Suamataia isn't fit to dress on game days. It doesn't take a top 10 pick to improve that situation. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
And you're ignoring the games before that Superbowl MVP. This has been an issue the past 2 years. It's just gotten worse this year.
Why are people so scared of words when it comes to Mahomes? He has regressed the past 2 years. He's not playing anywhere close to his usual standards. But some people are so hung up with the words people are using to describe his play that they want to gloss over the whole issue.
Last year the WR’s were a real problem until the playoffs. He would have had 30+ TD’s and 4,500 yards if not for MVS and Toney. They just couldn’t get open. I don’t blame last year on Mahomes.
This year is different. The WR’s are catching the ball at a good rate, guys are open and Mahomes is flat out missing them.
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Mahomes is 100% welcome to regress every season of his career if they all result in a Super Bowl MVP.
That's fine for you. I personally like seeing Mahomes play well. In regular seasons and post seasons. My Sundays are A LOT more fun with Mahomes playing great. I'd rather 17 great weeks that lead to a SB MVP run than this shit we're seeing right now. But some people are different I guess [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
People are scared to say it because they think hell snap back to form and they will look dumb.
He is absolutely going to snap back to form, as he always does. Doesn't mean people need to be scared to say he sucks right now, because he definitely does. You can't even call yourself a knowledgeable football fan if you try to tell me he's not playing like shit. The excuses about defenses "figuring the league out" have proven to be BS as well, as other QBs are still tearing it up.
Now granted, his situation is less than perfect, but being the GOAT means you step up when things are not ideal. He has not been doing that, but I fully expect him to go into God mode when he needs to again. [Reply]
I hate to say it, I was never a Smith defender, but we should have Donovan on the phone right now. He wasn't good last year but we've got a real problem. [Reply]