Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn:
For me it’s just that I don’t trust Humphries. Coming off injury , hasn’t played hardly any football in a year and us wanted to toss him out there in a divisional playoff game like that. Maybe I shouldn’t have said balled or expect him to be Trent Williams, but he definitely going to have to show something to gain trust in everyone’s eyes. Also seems like Thuney has been better each week at LT and Pat is starting to trust him. So I do think the bar for him has to be higher to unseat Thuney since the offense has finally started to look its normal self.
If the coaches trust him, why wouldn't you? They've won 4 AFC championships in 6 years. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
If the coaches trust him, why wouldn't you? They've won 4 AFC championships in 6 years.
We’ll see just how much they trust him on Sunday. I’d like to see them leave him on an island once he gets a few series under him and just see what the hell he can do when given no help against elite rushers. We need to know exactly what we have at LT going into the playoffs, and this is a perfect opportunity.
I think he’s going force the issue and play so well that they’re perfectly comfortable moving Thuney back inside. Everything seems to be lining up for the 3-peat and suddenly having solid LT play for the playoff run would kind of be the final icing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
We’ll see just how much they trust him on Sunday. I’d like to see them leave him on an island once he gets a few series under him and just see what the hell he can do when given no help against elite rushers. We need to know exactly what we have at LT going into the playoffs, and this is a perfect opportunity.
I think he’s going force the issue and play so well that they’re perfectly comfortable moving Thuney back inside. Everything seems to be lining up for the 3-peat and suddenly having solid LT play for the playoff run would kind of be the final icing.
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
We’ll see just how much they trust him on Sunday. I’d like to see them leave him on an island once he gets a few series under him and just see what the hell he can do when given no help against elite rushers. We need to know exactly what we have at LT going into the playoffs, and this is a perfect opportunity.
I think he’s going force the issue and play so well that they’re perfectly comfortable moving Thuney back inside. Everything seems to be lining up for the 3-peat and suddenly having solid LT play for the playoff run would kind of be the final icing.
This. I really think people are so nervous about thuney not playing LT that they underplay how huge an upgrade it would be for thuney to take over for caliendo. We've been playing musical chairs all year with LTs. If humphries plays well I'm not too nervous about continuity. [Reply]
What I don’t understand is why coaches can’t evaluate play in practice.
Are we simply not able to have de ‘s go at dj full speed? And evaluate how he does?
I never understood using live game action to evaluate players.
Reminds me of how jared Allen was on special teams and only got a chance to play due to injuries. No coaches could tell in scrimmages that he was good?
When I played football in pop Warner coaches used scrimmaged to determine which position each kid would play and who would and wouldn’t start. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Why does he have to 'ball out'?
Thuney hasn't.
I don't understand why the bar for Humphries is HIGHER than Thuney for some people.
Folks, we aren't benching Thuney here. We're moving the best LG in football back to LG. The bar for doing that shouldn't be any higher than 'not obviously worse at LT' because we will be orders of magnitude better at LG if we make that move.
Guards dont really matter. Interior offensive line doesn't really matter for a passing team.
LT is just such a premium position comparatively. If Thuney is your best LT, you use Thuney at LT even if it makes you dogshit at G. Also this decision will be up to Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes isn't going to tell the coaching staff he wants the guy who's barely played with him to be his LT in the playoffs.
Best case scenario is we blow out the Texans in the first half, move Humphries in 2nd half and he also balls out thrn maybe Mahomes will be comfortable. I simply just don’t think Mahomes is going to allow anyone but Joe Thuney to be his backside protection this year. Right or wrong. [Reply]
Originally Posted by xztop123:
What I don’t understand is why coaches can’t evaluate play in practice.
Are we simply not able to have de ‘s go at dj full speed? And evaluate how he does?
I never understood using live game action to evaluate players.
Reminds me of how jared Allen was on special teams and only got a chance to play due to injuries. No coaches could tell in scrimmages that he was good?
When I played football in pop Warner coaches used scrimmaged to determine which position each kid would play and who would and wouldn’t start.
They can. To a large degree.
And that's why Humphries is getting a shot. If they didn't like what they saw from him in practice, they wouldn't be giving him the chance to reclaim the job. [Reply]
Originally Posted by xztop123:
What I don’t understand is why coaches can’t evaluate play in practice.
Are we simply not able to have de ‘s go at dj full speed? And evaluate how he does?
I never understood using live game action to evaluate players.
Reminds me of how jared Allen was on special teams and only got a chance to play due to injuries. No coaches could tell in scrimmages that he was good?
When I played football in pop Warner coaches used scrimmaged to determine which position each kid would play and who would and wouldn’t start.
It's difficult IMO to evaluate guys in practice at alot of positions. Because coaches routinely get it wrong. Once you are out on game day some guys just don't have it between the ears. Obviously the coaches liked what they saw from Toney and Skyy in practice. Same with Morris. Same with Kingsley. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
It's difficult IMO to evaluate guys in practice at alot of positions. Because coaches routinely get it wrong. Once you are out on game day some guys just don't have it between the ears. Obviously the coaches liked what they saw from Toney and Skyy in practice. Same with Morris. Same with Kingsley.
There's a lot of hopeful optimism in there, too. Like "there's plenty of upside there and he's great in practice, maybe he can put it all together in a game", and then they utterly shit the bed. It happens. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Guards dont really matter. Interior offensive line doesn't really matter for a passing team.
LT is just such a premium position comparatively. If Thuney is your best LT, you use Thuney at LT even if it makes you dogshit at G. Also this decision will be up to Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes isn't going to tell the coaching staff he wants the guy who's barely played with him to be his LT in the playoffs.
Best case scenario is we blow out the Texans in the first half, move Humphries in 2nd half and he also balls out thrn maybe Mahomes will be comfortable. I simply just don’t think Mahomes is going to allow anyone but Joe Thuney to be his backside protection this year. Right or wrong.
If they weren't planning on going with Humphries if possible. They would play Thuney this game to give him more exposure at LT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
There's a lot of hopeful optimism in there, too. Like "there's plenty of upside there and he's great in practice, maybe he can put it all together in a game", and then they utterly shit the bed. It happens.
Even though we don’t do it but I wonder if it would help in the evaluation dept if we did scrimmages with other teams in the offseason. Preseason was shortened so limited time there. Our left tackle weren’t really going against world beaters in training camp aka FAU and Mike Dana. [Reply]
Why is Humphries vs Thuney at LT even a real discussion? If Humphries proves healthy, you play him. You know, play the guy with 100 starts in this league at LT as your LT and you move the best LG in the league, and maybe ever to play the game, back to fucking LG. It really doesn't have to be hard. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Why is Humphries vs Thuney at LT even a real discussion? If Humphries proves healthy, you play him. You know, play the guy with 100 starts in this league at LT as your LT and you move the best LG in the league, and maybe ever to play the game, back to ****ing LG. It really doesn't have to be hard.
The thing is he not only needs to prove himself healthy but also prove that he can be average enough to get the job done after a lengthy time not paying football and coming back from injury. [Reply]
