Originally Posted by New World Order:
What’s the alternative? A guy who hasn’t played a game in a full year, coming off acl tear and hamstring injuries?
Unless Humphries looks good tomorrow, Thuney is the best option
Honestly I wish we had another week or two to get a look at Morris back at LT.
We shit on that dude so quickly on the basis of the ass kicking he took vs LV but he really did look competent for most of the season. Then the knee started barking at him.
I think he can give us roughly what Thuney has - again, if the offense we've run the last 2 weeks is the offense we run - but there's just no time to find out.
If DJ isn't up for the task, Thuney is your guy. But if we were to lose Caliendo for some reason, I'd rather move Thuney back into LG and Morris to LT than dick around with another LG. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Honestly I wish we had another week or two to get a look at Morris back at LT.
We shit on that dude so quickly on the basis of the ass kicking he took vs LV but he really did look competent for most of the season. Then the knee started barking at him.
I think he can give us roughly what Thuney has - again, if the offense we've run the last 2 weeks is the offense we run - but there's just no time to find out.
If DJ isn't up for the task, Thuney is your guy. But if we were to lose Caliendo for some reason, I'd rather move Thuney back into LG and Morris to LT than dick around with another LG.
You can plug and play guards no problem. Remember when we signed Wizniewski in the middle of the year and stuck him at LG in the Super Bowl?
You’re not doing that with a Left Tackle. That is far more important. If Thuney is playing better than anyone else at tackle (which he is) then he should absolutely start. If Humphries looks god then fine. But Andy isn’t going to start him if he looks somewhat shaky tomorrow [Reply]
Tomorrow game will be the tell tale for me. If he balls out against Nik Bonitto then I would consider putting him at left tackle. If he looks bad whiffing on blocks, giving up sacks, he’s the backup. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn:
Tomorrow game will be the tell tale for me. If he balls out against Nik Bonitto then I would consider putting him at left tackle. If he looks bad whiffing on blocks, giving up sacks, he’s the backup.
Why does he have to 'ball out'?
Thuney hasn't.
I don't understand why the bar for Humphries is HIGHER than Thuney for some people.
Folks, we aren't benching Thuney here. We're moving the best LG in football back to LG. The bar for doing that shouldn't be any higher than 'not obviously worse at LT' because we will be orders of magnitude better at LG if we make that move. [Reply]
Originally Posted by New World Order:
You can plug and play guards no problem. Remember when we signed Wizniewski in the middle of the year and stuck him at LG in the Super Bowl?
You’re not doing that with a Left Tackle. That is far more important. If Thuney is playing better than anyone else at tackle (which he is) then he should absolutely start. If Humphries looks god then fine. But Andy isn’t going to start him if he looks somewhat shaky tomorrow
Sure. But you wouldn't be 'plugging and playing' Morris.
You'd be re-inserting him into the lineup at the position he'd played all year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Why does he have to 'ball out'?
Thuney hasn't.
I don't understand why the bar for Humphries is HIGHER than Thuney for some people.
Folks, we aren't benching Thuney here. We're moving the best LG in football back to LG. The bar for doing that shouldn't be any higher than 'not obviously worse at LT' because we will be orders of magnitude better at LG if we make that move.
It's been one of the more bizarre discussions of the year IMO. Why anyone would want to say no to an all pro guard in exchange for mediocrity at both LT and LG is beyond me. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
This is nonsense. The Chiefs running game has been up and down all season. It has nothing to do with Thuney being at LG or LT.
I'd disagree.
I think the running game definitely suffers with Thuney outside but it doesn't matter. Pat being upright and healthy is more important than a difference in YPC in the running game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Why does he have to 'ball out'?
Thuney hasn't.
I don't understand why the bar for Humphries is HIGHER than Thuney for some people.
Folks, we aren't benching Thuney here. We're moving the best LG in football back to LG. The bar for doing that shouldn't be any higher than 'not obviously worse at LT' because we will be orders of magnitude better at LG if we make that move.
For me it’s just that I don’t trust Humphries. Coming off injury , hasn’t played hardly any football in a year and us wanted to toss him out there in a divisional playoff game like that. Maybe I shouldn’t have said balled or expect him to be Trent Williams, but he definitely going to have to show something to gain trust in everyone’s eyes. Also seems like Thuney has been better each week at LT and Pat is starting to trust him. So I do think the bar for him has to be higher to unseat Thuney since the offense has finally started to look its normal self. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn:
For me it’s just that I don’t trust Humphries. Coming off injury , hasn’t played hardly any football in a year and us wanted to toss him out there in a divisional playoff game like that. Maybe I shouldn’t have said balled or expect him to be Trent Williams, but he definitely going to have to show something to gain trust in everyone’s eyes. Also seems like Thuney has been better each week at LT and Pat is starting to trust him. So I do think the bar for him has to be higher to unseat Thuney since the offense has finally started to look its normal self.
You're aware we have a game before the divisional to see if he's got it or not, right? [Reply]
Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn:
So I do think the bar for him has to be higher to unseat Thuney since the offense has finally started to look its normal self.
I assume that's the case.
That being said the ceiling for Humpries at LT is definitely higher. He's not in game shape yet, he's already had an injury, but if he's able to get to 80% of what he was that's approaching a pro bowl player.
Can he pull shit together this quickly with this little playing time? Don't know but I think everyone hopes so... [Reply]
Originally Posted by New World Order:
What’s the alternative? A guy who hasn’t played a game in a full year, coming off acl tear and hamstring injuries?
Yes.
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Unless Humphries looks good tomorrow, Thuney is the best option
Yes.
It's really not that hard. And again, Humphries only needs to look about as good as Thuney. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
You're aware we have a game before the divisional to see if he's got it or not, right?
Your right.Tomorrow is the day where we can gamble with him being out there to see where he’s at. Hopefully he has a good showing. I understand he’s going to get beat some but I don’t want to see any bad whiffs where can’t even get a hand on a defender and gets the Qb killed. At least when Thuney gets beat he gets beat slow. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn:
For me it’s just that I don’t trust Humphries. Coming off injury , hasn’t played hardly any football in a year and us wanted to toss him out there in a divisional playoff game like that. Maybe I shouldn’t have said balled or expect him to be Trent Williams, but he definitely going to have to show something to gain trust in everyone’s eyes. Also seems like Thuney has been better each week at LT and Pat is starting to trust him. So I do think the bar for him has to be higher to unseat Thuney since the offense has finally started to look its normal self.
Yea, I guess that depends a little on how much you want to move Thuney back to LG. [Reply]