Originally Posted by kccrow:
I don't think he's making it out of the top 20 man, I just don't.
That's cool I am just throwing ideas out there, if you will. I actually am cool with whatever we do. Move up, move down. Veach is in control and will make the best decisions in the end. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Stryker:
That's cool I am just throwing ideas out there, if you will. I actually am cool with whatever we do. Move up, move down. Veach is in control and will make the best decisions in the end. :-)
People are really stoked for Veach to make a move for an offensive weapon. I don't see that move happening unless LT gets sorted somehow. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
People are really stoked for Veach to make a move for an offensive weapon. I don't see that move happening unless LT gets sorted somehow.
I hope we move up for a LT, not a WR. Weve shown what we can do with average wrs. I want improvement but we signed Hollywood and this draft is deep at wr. LT in the 1st, maybe even move up. And move up & use the a sneed trade for Coleman at 50, if hes available. That would be my favorite outcome. [Reply]
Been watching a lot more this weekend of multiple people. I really think Legette and Mitchell will be the steals of the draft/special special players. Nabers is a HOF possible, and Im liking Odunze more that before. BTJr just looks like a bust to me, awkward player. Franklin fits this offense a lot, maybe better than Worthy. We wouldnt be upset with Worthy. Im not that big on Ladd. Just dont think hes worth a 1st pick compared to the other players. He could be solid, could be pedestrian. Idk how tough he is.
Its an all-time class, probably. Mahomes is entering his prime. I say we try to get 2 of them, if we can. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
After us signing Hollywood, I could see us waiting until the 3rd to take a WR because in most years you can get the 16th WR taken. Heres the total for how many WRs were taken in the first 3 rounds since 2020.
2023: 14
2022: 17
2021: 14
2020: 16
Look at how many WRs were taken by round below.
2023
1st round: 4
2nd: 4
3rd: 6
4th: 3
5th: 3
2022
1st round: 6
2nd: 7
3rd: 4
4th: 3
5th: 3
2021
1st round: 4
2nd: 5
3rd: 5
4th: 4
5th: 3
2020
1st round: 6
2nd: 7
3rd: 3
4th: 2
5th: 8
2023
1.20 SEA Jaxon Smith-Njigba Ohio State
1.21 LAC Quentin Johnston Texas Christian
1.22 BAL Zay Flowers Boston College
1.23 MIN Jordan Addison Southern California
2.08 CAR Jonathan Mingo Mississippi
2.19 GB Jayden Reed Michigan State
2.24 KC Rashee Rice Southern Methodist
2.32 DEN Marvin Mims Oklahoma
3.06 HOU Nathaniel Dell Houston
3.10 NYG Jalin Hyatt Tennessee
3.11 CLE Cedric Tillman Tennessee
3.16 IND Josh Downs North Carolina
3.31 ARI Michael Wilson Stanford
3.37 LVR Tre Tucker Cincinnati
4.23 LAC Derius Davis Texas Christian
4.29 CIN Charlie Jones Purdue
4.31 CHI Tyler Scott Cincinnati
5.15 BUF Justin Shorter Florida
5.24 GB Dontayvion Wicks Virginia
5.42 LAR Puka Nacua Brigham Young
2022
1.08 ATL WR Drake London USC
1.10 NYJ WR Garrett Wilson Ohio State
1.11 NO WR Chris Olave Ohio State
1.12 DET WR Jameson Williams Alabama
1.16 WAS WR Jahan Dotson Penn State
1.18 TEN WR Treylon Burks Arkansas
2.02 GB WR Christian Watson North Dakota St.
2.11 NYG WR WanDale Robinson Kentucky
2.12 HOU WR John Metchie III Alabama
2.18 NE WR Tyquan Thornton Baylor
2.20 PIT WR George Pickens Georgia
2.21 IND WR Alec Pierce Cincinnati
2.22 KC WR Skyy Moore Western Michigan
3.07 CHI WR Velus Jones Jr. Tennessee
3.24 DAL WR Jalen Tolbert South Alabama
3.35 CLE WR David Bell Purdue
3.41 SF WR Danny Gray SMU
4.20 MIA WR Erik Ezukanma Texas Tech
4.27 GB WR Romeo Doubs Nevada
4.33 PIT WR Calvin Austin III Memphis
5.05 BUF WR Khalil Shakir Boise State
5.19 DEN WR Montrell Washington Samford
5.20 TEN WR Kyle Phillips UCLA
2021
1 6 Miami WR Jaylen Waddle Alabama Jr 510″ 182
1 10 Philadelphia WR DeVonta Smith Alabama Sr 61″ 175
1 20 NY Giants WR Kadarius Toney Florida Sr 60″ 193
1 27 Baltimore WR Rashod Bateman Minnesota Jr 62″ 210
2 2 NY Jets WR Elijah Moore Ole Miss Jr 59″ 185
2 17 Arizona WR Rondale Moore Purdue Soph 59″ 180
2 24 Seattle WR DWayne Eskridge Western Michigan Sr 59″ 190
2 25 LA Rams WR Tutu Atwell Louisville Jr 59″ 165
2 27 Carolina WR Terrace Marshall Jr. LSU Jr 63″ 200
3 14 LA Chargers WR Josh Palmer Tennessee Sr 62″ 210
3 19 Washington WR Dyami Brown North Carolina Jr 60″ 185
3 22 Green Bay WR Amari Rodgers Clemson Sr 510″ 210
3 26 Houston WR Nico Collins Michigan Sr 64″ 215
3 28 Cleveland WR Anthony Schwartz Auburn Jr 60″ 179
4 4 Tennessee WR Dez Fitzpatrick Louisville Sr 62″ 210
4 7 Detroit WR Amon-Ra St. Brown USC Jr 61″ 195
4 24 Tampa Bay WR Jaelon Darden North Texas Sr 59″ 174
4 26 Baltimore WR Tylan Wallace Oklahoma St. Sr 60″ 190
5 13 Minnesota WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette Iowa Sr 61″ 179
5 35 Dallas WR Simi Fehoko Stanford Jr 64″ 220
5 37 Kansas City WR Cornell Powell Clemson Sr 60″ 210
2020
1 12 Las Vegas Raiders Henry Ruggs III WR Alabama 60″ 190
1 15 Denver Broncos Jerry Jeudy WR Alabama 61″ 192
1 17 Dallas Cowboys CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma 62″ 191
1 21 Philadelphia Eagles Jalen Reagor WR TCU 511 195
1 22 Minnesota Vikings Justin Jefferson WR LSU 63″ 192
1 25 San Francisco 49ers Brandon Aiyuk WR Arizona State 61″ 195
2 33 Cincinnati Bengals Tee Higgins WR Clemson 64″ 215
2 34 Indianapolis Colts Michael Pittman Jr. WR USC 64″ 225
2 42 Jacksonville Jaguars Laviska Shenault Jr. WR Colorado 62″ 220
2 46 Denver Broncos KJ Hamler WR Penn State 59″ 176
2 49 Pittsburgh Steelers Chase Claypool WR Notre Dame 64″ 229
2 57 Los Angeles Rams Van Jefferson WR Florida 62″ 197
2 59 New York Jets Denzel Mims WR Baylor 63″ 215
3 66 Washington Redskins Antonio Gibson WR Memphis 62″ 221
3 81 Las Vegas Raiders Bryan Edwards WR South Carolina 63″ 215
3 92 Baltimore Ravens Devin Duvernay WR Texas 511 210
4 128 Buffalo Bills Gabriel Davis WR UCF 63″ 212
4 142 Washington Redskins Antonio Gandy-Golden WR Liberty 64″ 220
5 151 Los Angeles Chargers Joe Reed WR Virginia 61″ 215
5 161 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tyler Johnson WR Minnesota 62″ 205
5 165 Jacksonville Jaguars Collin Johnson WR Texas 66″ 220
5 166 Detroit Lions Quintez Cephus WR Wisconsin 61″ 207
5 168 Philadelphia Eagles John Hightower WR Boise State 62″ 183
5 171 Houston Texans Isaiah Coulter WR Rhode Island 63″ 190
5 173 Chicago Bears Darnell Mooney WR Tulane 511 175
5 176 Minnesota Vikings K.J. Osborn WR Miami (FL) 60″ 205
I know we missed on Skyy, or so it seems, but my God, wasn't much right before or after him... Pickens is good, but he's a head case diva. [Reply]
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
I know we missed on Skyy, or so it seems, but my God, wasn't much right before or after him... Pickens is good, but he's a head case diva.
This years class tiers:
Top 5 in a typical draft year:
Malik Nabors
MHJ
Rome Odunze
Top 10 in a typical draft year:
Brian Thomas Jr.
First round picks in a typical draft year:
AD Mitchell
Xavier Worthy
Ladd McConkey
Troy Franklin
Xavier Legette
Keon Coleman
Debatable first round picks in a typical draft year:
Roman Wilson
Jermaine Burton
Ricky pearsall
Second round picks in a typical draft year:
Jalen Polk
Jalen McMillan
Devontez Walker
Malachi Corley
Malik Washington
And so on. This is why I have such a hard on for rebuilding our wide receiver corps this year like we did three years ago with the DBs. Make Hay while the sun shines draft 3-4. I fon't care you can't over invest this year [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
This years class tiers:
Top 5 in a typical draft year:
Malik Nabors
MHJ
Rome Odunze
Top 10 in a typical draft year:
Brian Thomas Jr.
First round picks in a typical draft year:
AD Mitchell
Xavier Worthy
Ladd McConkey
Troy Franklin
Xavier Legette
Keon Coleman
Debatable first round picks in a typical draft year:
Roman Wilson
Jermaine Burton
Ricky pearsall
Second round picks in a typical draft year:
Jalen Polk
Jalen McMillan
Devontez Walker
Malachi Corley
Malik Washington
And so on. This is why I have such a hard on for rebuilding our wide receiver corps this year like we did three years ago with the DBs. Make Hay while the sun shines draft 3-4. I fon't care you can't over invest this year
And a decent year for Tackles... The football gods love us... [Reply]
Okay so that 90% contested catch rate graphic made me check out Cornelius Johnson from Michigan. Hadn't heard much about him.
His routes look super chunky and he lumbers around the field almost like a TE would if he were split wide. But then he's actually got a little sneaky speed to him, like you wouldn't expect him to be as fast as he is.
Ultimately I don't think he's a KC WR. Routes aren't clean enough.
I know DJLN hates RAS, but I was surprised to see his score. Worth noting the agility is missing, which is the biggest question mark after watching him on the field.
Cornelius Johnson is a WR prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored an unofficial 9.91 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 29 out of 3063 WR from 1987 to 2024.
Originally Posted by Dante84:
Okay so that 90% contested catch rate graphic made me check out Cornelius Johnson from Michigan. Hadn't heard much about him.
His routes look super chunky and he lumbers around the field almost like a TE would if he were split wide. But then he's actually got a little sneaky speed to him, like you wouldn't expect him to be as fast as he is.
Ultimately I don't think he's a KC WR. Routes aren't clean enough.
I know DJLN hates RAS, but I was surprised to see his score. Worth noting the agility is missing, which is the biggest question mark after watching him on the field.
Cornelius Johnson is a WR prospect in the 2024 draft class. He scored an unofficial 9.91 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 29 out of 3063 WR from 1987 to 2024.
