Originally Posted by RunKC:
Yup. They are gonna start Humphries and Wanya and this couldn’t be a better week to do it.
We are gonna get a lot of answers. Again, if Wanya continues to look good at RT like he did in the Texans game, you have to really consider him replacing Taylor in 2026.
The problem is that 2026 is Wanya's walk year in its own right.
Would rather try to buy another year of control at that position before I have to start paying for it. Would prefer see Kingsley take the gig.
But there's a long way between now and 2026 -- they'll 'consider' any number of things between now and then. I suspect a throwaway game against Denver 2 seasons earlier isn't going to alter that calculus much. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
What’s the starting oline look like? DJ, Caliendo, creed, smith, morris? I’d like to see how Morris does at RT also.
I hope Creed Humphrey doesn't play many snaps. He's a pretty important player on our line. Hunter Nourzad is listed as the #2 C on the depth chart so I expect to see him at C taking snaps for most of the game. CJ Hanson is listed as the #2 RG so he should see a lot of play too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoover:
This is an over reaction IMO.
1. Like it or not, the Chiefs are at their absolute best when the offense is moving the ball in the air. The scheme shift the last two weeks has led to more points, longer and more sucerssful drives.
The shift has coincided with Thuney getting help, Brown returning and Pat getting the ball out as quick as he ever has. I don't think adding DJ into this mix means the same things can't be done. Infact I think it would make it even better as DJ won't need to be protected as much as Joe.
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2. Lets be honest about the running backs for a second. The Chiefs have rode the shit out of Hunt. Dude has been amazing, but we have demanded a ton out of the guy. Its important to make sure he's fresh for the playoffs. Pop is coming back from a leg injruy. Again, we accomp0lished everything we wanted to accomplish by securing the #1 seed. Its more important to make sure Pop is ready for the playoffs than running the damn ball up and down the field.
I understand your point but Caliendo has been quite bad run blocking and it's killed a ton of run plays. We may have a pass first offense but teams are gonna back off like crazy with Brown and Worthy out there so we MUST exploit them light boxes.
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3. It was important to get the passing offense in rythem. Which they have accomplished.
It's a small sample size though and there is no evidence that suggests the passing game can't function with a healthy DJ at LT.
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4. Running game sucked in Cleveland. 26 carries for 77 yards. Thats a good defense. Pops first game back. 1st game with Thuney at LT and Caliendo at G. The number of carries in the next game against the Texansd was 20, vs the Steelers it was 15. I don't think there is a reason to sound the alarm regarding guard play in the running game when Andy (for good reason) has lighted the load for the backs due to overuse and injury.
When going into the playoffs red flags must be looked at. Caliendo has never been a starter in his career or played more than two games. It's not just about the run game as he's been average in pass blocking too. And when you have that issue along with the poor rush numbers, then everything has to be considered.
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In conclusion. The games vs the Steelers and Texans where the tune up for the playoffs, especially as the passing game goes. I don't think Andy is going to insert an unknow variable (DJ) into the Oline mix unless he's forced to do it. They went to Thuney when they did because they needed to figure out the offense for the playoffs. You can't be figuring shit out when the loser goes home.
Imo Thuney is the floor, not the ceiling. We have him there so we know what we can get with him there at LT. DJ is healthy now and is starting against Denver and if he plays well, then has a full two weeks to get even more healthy and in tune with the offense, then I'd be very surprised if they don't play him tbh. I just don't think playing Joe out of position and a backup at guard would be the best option moving forward when we have an experienced pro-bowl level LT right there.
But anyway DJ has to get through Sunday for this to really be a debate so let's just wait and see. [Reply]
Thuney didn't get as much as you think. Players lined up on his side on occasion, but they didn't always help out of that lineup position.
And this is not an argument for Thuney to start over Humphries. Just pointing out Thuney needs/gets help all the time as not being a reason for going to Humphries [Reply]
Originally Posted by Coogs:
Thuney didn't get as much as you think. Players lined up on his side on occasion, but they didn't always help out of that lineup position.
And this is not an argument for Thuney to start over Humphries. Just pointing out Thuney needs/gets help all the time as not being a reason for going to Humphries
People keep saying that. I focused on Thuney a lot and saw help a lot. Not every snap. But we roll pockets and chip that side a lot more. I wish there were numbers available. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
People keep saying that. I focused on Thuney a lot and saw help a lot. Not every snap. But we roll pockets and chip that side a lot more. I wish there were numbers available.
I do too. As I said earlier, on the highlight package on Netflex, there were 16 offensive plays shown. Thuney got no help on 15 of those 16 and would not have needed help on the 16th, which was Kelce's TD. Now since there were only 43 more offensive plays ran during the game, I find it hard to believe the number of plays Thuney got help was extremely high.
Guys lined up his side? Sure. Help though? Not so much. [Reply]
All of you Cowards, Losers, and Traitors Humphries Haters can get bent!!1
He's finally had enough time to somewhat acclimate not only to the rigors of the game, but his new system/team as well... Wentz will feel like he has guardian angels on his left
Not lying you just watch, he will look more than credible [Reply]
I watched Reids press conference, and I will give all you DJ fans this, Reid is pulling for the guy. You can tell by the look in his eye. So if he plays well on Sunday, I can see it happening.
My point all along has been this. The playoffs are not the time to got with a dude at LT and then have to alter the game plan because it's not working. If that were to happen it means drives are being stopped. The offense isn't producing. Mahomes is getting hit. That leads to frustration, which leads to the offense pressing, and if have seen one thing in with this team, when they press they can go to shit. Reid will want to avoid that at all cost. And I imagine Thuney and Pat have some say in this matter too. If Thuney wants to do it, and Pat feels better with him at LT, I can't see Reid going against that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoover:
I watched Reids press conference, and I will give all you DJ fans this, Reid is pulling for the guy. You can tell by the look in his eye. So if he plays well on Sunday, I can see it happening.
My point all along has been this. The playoffs are not the time to got with a dude at LT and then have to alter the game plan because it's not working. If that were to happen it means drives are being stopped. The offense isn't producing. Mahomes is getting hit. That leads to frustration, which leads to the offense pressing, and if have seen one thing in with this team, when they press they can go to shit. Reid will want to avoid that at all cost. And I imagine Thuney and Pat have some say in this matter too. If Thuney wants to do it, and Pat feels better with him at LT, I can't see Reid going against that.
They already altered the game plan, with the quickest release routes for a game in Patrick’s career. I suspect a lot of that will be kept in there regardless who plays. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoover:
I watched Reids press conference, and I will give all you DJ fans this, Reid is pulling for the guy. You can tell by the look in his eye. So if he plays well on Sunday, I can see it happening.
My point all along has been this. The playoffs are not the time to got with a dude at LT and then have to alter the game plan because it's not working. If that were to happen it means drives are being stopped. The offense isn't producing. Mahomes is getting hit. That leads to frustration, which leads to the offense pressing, and if have seen one thing in with this team, when they press they can go to shit. Reid will want to avoid that at all cost. And I imagine Thuney and Pat have some say in this matter too. If Thuney wants to do it, and Pat feels better with him at LT, I can't see Reid going against that.
Lol a lil twinkle in his eyes tells you he's pulling for him? [Reply]
Of course Reid is pulling for the guy. He's the best chance they have of being at max strength in the playoffs. I still don't think Thuney at LT is sustainable. [Reply]
If he looks serviceable today, you roll with him in the playoffs. It gives you the best 5 across the line in the best spots for them. This shouldn't really be a question. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
If he looks serviceable today, you roll with him in the playoffs. It gives you the best 5 across the line in the best spots for them. This shouldn't really be a question.
He has already been picked by this team for having the big dick energy they're looking for. I don't know if they used cerebro, AI, or one of those Highlander guys that gets a tingle in their dingle when another one of them is around but he's here now.
It'll work. He just needs to be solid - not an All pro. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
If he looks serviceable today, you roll with him in the playoffs. It gives you the best 5 across the line in the best spots for them. This shouldn't really be a question.
The Chiefs play tomorrow. You gotta stop drinking. [Reply]
They’ve played very good defenses and Thuney has looked good at LT. This is the best the line has looked by far this year and in return Mahomes looks like he used to.