1.31 Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama. Maybe, as things shake out, one of the few guys worthy of a round 1 pick in this draft?
2.63 Keanu Benton, DT, Wisconsin. We've talked about him a lot. Nice pick for 2023 and the future.
3.82 Blake Freeland, OT, BYU. Last of this tier, I moved up to make sure I got one. Instant competiton at RT.
4.122 DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas. Yes, the Chiefs' LB corps is stacked, but Overshown is a nice long-term prospect at coverage backer (and gives you insurance there if you decide you can't rightly pay Gay or Tranquill).
stopped there. But I see the value of this, especially if you're using Gibbs more like Deebo Samuel... [Reply]
Not a terrible effort. My thought is that Veach doesn't ever hesitate to pay the third and fourth to take a shot at a premium edge rusher. We have arguably more picks than roster spots, so it makes sense to move up at some point. I think pfns board really falls apart after the third round.
Reciever value wasn't there in the second and the premium athlete at guard to plan for Thuneys departure.
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Guys, please realize that when you pull 5he trigger on March, you’re pulling the trigger on an NFL G, not a T. At least for Heck/Reid.
I mean, I think I pretty clearly spelled that out in my narrative?
In the bottom of the second, you can't turn down the value if he's there. It enables you to get him up to speed this year, since he's coming from am fcs program, and you have a potential Perennial pro bowler to replace Thuney next year, enabling you to trade him or cut him to save about 9.5m against the cap in 24 and 22.6 against the cap in 25.
Trading Thuney next year with two years of cheap control probably gets you a decent little draft return as well - at least a second I would think. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
I mean, I think I pretty clearly spelled that out in my narrative?
In the bottom of the second, you can't turn down the value if he's there. It enables you to get him up to speed this year, since he's coming from am fcs program, and you have a potential Perennial pro bowler to replace Thuney next year, enabling you to trade him or cut him to save about 9.5m against the cap in 24 and 22.6 against the cap in 25.
Trading Thuney next year with two years of cheap control probably gets you a decent little draft return as well - at least a second I would think.
You aren't the only one who has mocked him, but I didn't see your narrative at first.
I would have strong reservations about taking a G prospect to sit a year (and likely two, as I don't think a Thuney trade would really materialize) with that pick.
Trade out if there isn't a guy you love there, just don't take it on a depth guy at a non-premium position who doesn't project to contribute until 1/2 through his rookie contract. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
You aren't the only one who has mocked him, but I didn't see your narrative at first.
I would have strong reservations about taking a G prospect to sit a year (and likely two, as I don't think a Thuney trade would really materialize) with that pick.
Trade out if there isn't a guy you love there, just don't take it on a depth guy at a non-premium position who doesn't prokect to contrinbute until 1/2 through his rookie contract.
I don't know what the means but man if I'm not on board with the rest of it. :-) [Reply]
Here's my last mock of the cycle, completed on the ESPN simulator (which seems to have the best board right now).
1.31 Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame. Mayer slipped a little, the T I liked at this spot were gone, as were WR, and RB. So I nabbed Mayer with the plan of drastically ramping up the amount of 12 set I play in 23 and forward. This lets me use Kelce in the big slot role basically exclusively, while adding a nice playmaker long-term for Mahomes.
2.50 Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan. I made teh Mayer pick planning to move up into the middle of the 2nd for a DL player, and when Smith slipped, he became the pick. To facilitate, I sent 63, 134, and a 2024 3rd to Tampa for 50 and a 2024 5th.
3.84 Blake Freeland, OT, BYU. I wanted to add competition and versatility to the OL, and chose to move up to get Freeland and accomplish that. It cost me 95, 178, and a 2024 4th, though I again received a 2024 5th back. Odds are good one of those 5ths I've netted will be within 10 picks of the 4th I just surrendered.
4.122 Robert Beal, Jr, DE, Georgia. I reached a bit here for Beal, but I think he has a lot more in the tank after being relegated to a rotation in a deep and talented Georgia front. The Frank Clark comparisons make sense to me, and I could see him drastically outplaying this draft slot.
5.166 DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas. He has become one of my favorites in the middle rounds. ST guy in 23 with the ability to slide into a pass defending-LB role in 24 if both Tranquill and Gay price themselves out.
6217 Ronnie Bell, WR, Michigan. I finally return to the pass catchers and add an oft-injured but speedy and shift opton on offense.
7.249 Holton Ahlers, QB, Eastern Carolina. WIth back-to-back 7ths and no DBs I like really available, I swung on Ahlers, who could be a cheap long-term backup solution for Mahomes.
7.250 Dee Winters, LB, TCU. He's fast and fearless, if undersized. Seems like a good ST contributor, if nothing else.
I would have really liked to squeeze in a DB somewhere in here (probably in place of one of the LB) but just never had someone in smart range that I actually liked and thought fit what KC does.
Post draft depth:
QB Mahomes/Gabbert (Ahlers to PS)
RB Pacheco/Edwards-Helaire/FA
FB ONLY RYAN TRACY AND ANDY REID CARE
WR Toney/Valdes-Scantling/Moore/James/Watson/Bell
TE Kelce/Mayer/Gray/Fortson
OT Taylor/Niang/Freeland/Tano-Wanogho
OG Thuney/Smith/Kinnard
C Humphrey/FA
DE Karlaftis/Omenihu/Danna/Beal/Vet FA
DT Jones/Smith/Nnadi/Wharton
LB Bolton/Tranquill/Gay/Chenal/Overshown/(Winters to PS)
CB Sneed/McDuffie/Williams/Watson/ (this is where I'd like to slot in a DB instead of Winters in my draft or a FA)
S Reid/Cook/Mike Edwards/Bush
K Butker
P Townsend
LS Winchester
By my count, that's 49 spots. I'd expect a few more DBs and WRs to flesh out the ST units. I'd feel really good about this squad. [Reply]
Noted that OT Zion Nelson was a potential 1st rounder early last season, then pulled out of the draft, now he's going in like the 7th... what happened?
Alternatively, I noticed DB Quinyon Mitchell was a 7th rounder last year and upgraded to 2-4th rounder this draft depending on the site. Good for him! [Reply]
