Originally Posted by ToxSocks:
That clip of Burrow on 3rd down at the end of the game that's been making the rounds; the most alarming part about it was Burrow dodging ghosts in the backfield.
To me, that's more worrisome than his passing charts or his wrist.
He's afraid to get hit. Likely protecting that wrist. That Oline + his injury are totally in his head.
People keep talking about him being unwilling to throw against single coverage. I think it was much more about his staring at the rush and never seeing the play develop downfield to begin with.
If you just watch his movement in the pocket on that play.....man i swear he looks ready to go fetal almost right away. [Reply]
Oh man. Day trip to Cincy. Gonna stop at the famous Shit Chili restaurant and then off to sit in one of the shittiest stadiums in America to watch the Chiefs win and smell the STDs and BO. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Why do people on CP give the Bengals the same benefit of the doubt they do the Chiefs?
The Bengals haven't earned that. They start slow every year, we just haven't played them this early yet. So no, I'm not buying that they can just turn it on this week and be in their late season mode.
I think the important thing is that they do turn it around at some point and most expect the added motivation of playing us early on may give them the spark they need. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bengal Billy:
This could all be true, hard to disagree with it. He looked bad no doubt.
Could be the wrist, the rust. Or, could be just his M.O. with these ridiculously slow starts to the seasons.
Burrow/Taylor are now 1-8 (during Burrow's career) in the first 2 weeks of the season and staring 1-9 in the face.
The only win was nearly a miracle victory in 2021 when they beat Vikings in OT due to Dalvin Cook fumble in Bengals territory.
Extremely frustrating with these slow starts. If Bengals run defense doesn't extremely improve in a hurry, Pacheco is going to have a monster day.
At some point that's gotta cost Zac Taylor his job, right?
1-10 through the first 2 weeks over his first 5+ seasons in the league? That's just unacceptable. At a point, do SOMETHING different. You can't be spotting the rest of the AFC at least 1 and often 2 wins every single season.
Whatever you're doing in camp - stop. Do something else. These slow starts are killing them. It puts so much pressure on them to keep the pedal down and potentially show plays/tendencies that they'd rather keep back down the stretch. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Why do people on CP give the Bengals the same benefit of the doubt they do the Chiefs?
The Bengals haven't earned that. They start slow every year, we just haven't played them this early yet. So no, I'm not buying that they can just turn it on this week and be in their late season mode.
Burrow hasn't earned that.
Have we reached a point where beating Mahomes in the playoffs once gets you a lifetime pass? You stay in the 'top 5 QBs' lists because that thing you did that one time?
One season with MVP votes. One. Got badly outplayed by Jake Browning last season. Can't stay healthy. May simply not be physically sound (now or perhaps ever). And has NEVER performed without 2 premier pass-catchers in this lineup.
Why do we keep acting like it's verboten to question whether or not Joe Burrow is a truly premier QB and not just another average guy who's a product of his weapons?
It's silly. DJ Reader has a better track record relative to his position group. Chase certainly does. Higgins does. Shit, Mixon might have.
It's really ridiculous that people keep trying to keep him in the same tier as Mahomes. He's not on that level. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut: Burrow hasn't earned that.
Have we reached a point where beating Mahomes in the playoffs once gets you a lifetime pass? You stay in the 'top 5 QBs' lists because that thing you did that one time?
One season with MVP votes. One. Got badly outplayed by Jake Browning last season. Can't stay healthy. May simply not be physically sound (now or perhaps ever). And has NEVER performed without 2 premier pass-catchers in this lineup.
Why do we keep acting like it's verboten to question whether or not Joe Burrow is a truly premier QB and not just another average guy who's a product of his weapons?
It's silly. DJ Reader has a better track record relative to his position group. Chase certainly does. Higgins does. Shit, Mixon might have.
It's really ridiculous that people keep trying to keep him in the same tier as Mahomes. He's not on that level.
Allen is considered the 2nd best QB in the league because he plays Mahomes close in the playoffs.
Jake Browning looked every bit as good as Burrow last year. Their playmakers were just ridiculous and makes Burrow look better. I don’t think Burrow is bad by any means, but he is propped up and this year could be different. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I think the important thing is that they do turn it around at some point and most expect the added motivation of playing us early on may give them the spark they need.
Higgins has a hamstring injury, Burrow is clearly not back to form yet, and Chase missed a lot of time holding out. Combine all that with the fact that their defense is now terrible, and they lost Mixon and Boyd in the offseason as well, and you have very little reason to think they can get this this turned around in one fucking week. [Reply]
