You are just underestimating Andy Reid and what he can do to compensate losing Hill. We won't miss a beat and we maybe better just because we won't be as predictable to tendencies of where the ball is going. Bengals knew we were going to throw to Tyreek they banked on it and sure enough that's what we did and they got the interception in overtime.

If we are unpredictable and spread the ball around and run the ball this is going be a much more balanced and potent offense than before. I think Patrick can get 60TD 5500 yards *17games*

You're clearly underestimating what Patrick Mahomes can do and he is now in his prime years and this year be more ready for what ever the defense throws at him. Go ahead doubt Andy Reid and doubt Patrick Mahomes. Last 5 years we have the most wins 60 of all NFL and you can't tell me credit Hill for all 60 of those wins. Yes a lot of them yes he gets credit but it's the mind of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes will to win games.
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I didn’t want this trade but in the long run it’s about opening Mahomes 2nd Super Bowl window. Can’t delay it to long or it could be his last prime window.

With this idea of going through draft we are at least salted for 4 total SB windows in Mahomes career. (Window being 2-3 year windows were talent is high and cap hit isn’t)
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The Chiefs will likely never have a better window than what they just had with him on his rookie deal.
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I'm not underestimating anything. Not trying to credit Hill with 60 wins, it's a team sport. But just about every big win, Hill played a huge part in. If anyone is underestimating something, it's you and Hill's contributions.
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Alexsexuals, Hunters, Hillites, still no Badgeretts
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It's hilarious that people try to paint defenses choosing to change their entire defense and coverages specifically for Hill as not only a problem, but a Hill problem.

Guys if you have a guy that forces defense to play him differently, you have the opposite of a problem. Don't blame Hill for the rest of the offense not being able to figure out how to exploit a defense that was selling out to stop one player.
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I don't underestimate his contributions but in this league change is constant. He could get hurt again any player can get hurt and you have to adjust at a whims notice. Other players have to step it up in order for it to work. If they don't step it up then you are absolutely correct. Either way we needed to get the defense better or we will get clobbered because we can't stop Carr and Devante how embarrassing that would be. I agree with you giving up Hill sucks but it was the choice that was forced on Bleach . HILL wanted out and he wanted too much money that our cap space couldn't hold to sign other players positions than his. Hill isn't the entire team but if you pay him what he wanted we would have been fucked for several years and on top of that next few years he will start to decline in his skills. He had the second most drops 13 in the NFL. He wasn't as consistent and some of his balls were tipped for interceptions.

Right now we got three pretty good WR and the best TE and this is going be a dominant offensive line and a couple backs that will split the load and surprise how good they are.

Last year we started out sucking but ended up winning the division and hosted the AFCCG for the 4th time. We may or maynot be so good this year but at least in this draft we can get guys that will help us dominate for the next 5 years and open up the window for us to win another Lombardi or two.

Will we miss Hill absolutely, can we adjust and win without him absolutely.

Can Vlearch get players too help us win championships well just got to see how it plays out. Having 8 picks in first 4 rounds is pretty good odds to come away with some nice talent.
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Tyreek had some really bad drops last year on easy passes, at least one that cost us a game. Maybe that's just an aberration, and he's still an all-pro even with the drops. But if it becomes a trend that would be concerning.

Obviously this isn't enough to just decide to get rid of him. But it could be enough for Veech/Reid to ask if we really want to make this guy the highest paid player in the league.

His catching balls in traffic seemed to drop last year too. About once a day I fantasize about Tyreek timing his jump better on that last play vs. the Bengals and getting his body in front of Eli Apple to make the catch. It would have been a great play. But he's made those plenty of times in the past. Obviously most of that is still on Mahomes, he was really trying to thread the needle on that throw with no margin for error.
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JUST HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW MAN? HE's ON A 10 YEAR DEAL and will likely still get extended beyond. Tyreek wasn't going be with us for all of Mahomes contract. You don't know who else we can get. You don't know how our defense is going to perform and you don't know how each year we will be. Our window of opportunity to win a Super Bowl is every GOD DAMN YEAR WE HAVE PATRICK MAHOMES.

Tyreek had 13 drops second most in the NFL and some tipped balls that went for interceptions. He wasn't isn't the greatest WR in the league. If he was he would have came away with the ball instead of the Bengals defender have it.

YOU simply just made me hate Tyreek.


Just how the fuck do you know we won't have a better opportunity to win Super Bowls? The Chiefs did exactly what the Patriots do to players just before they decline and trade them for draft stock. We can get right back to the Super Bowl may not this year because I don't think our defense will be as good but it sure wouldn't be as good keeping Tyreek then teams would just drive down and keep our offense off the field so Tyreek would be defacto. We need to boost our DLine and Edge and a CB to keep our defense good enough so that our offense can score points and our defense keeps the other team from out scoring us. The winner of the game is the team with the most points if our defense allows the other team to out score us we lose. It's like Patrics rookie year when we played the rams sure we scored a lot of points but so did the rams and they beat us because they made a defensive play and we did not.


I don't know because I'm not Nostradamus but I bet odds of winning more Super Bowls with Patrick Mahomes than odds of winning Super Bowls for Miami with Tyreek Hill.
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That's not true. This draft can set up the team for the next 10 years. Especially if they get some quality defenders and a WR here.
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It's possible to acknowledge how important Tyreek Hill was to winning while also being optimistic for the future as a result of this trade because it now means the Chiefs have way more flexibility to evolve and change from year to year instead of being locked into paying 3 stars and 48 shitbuckets.

You want to win Super Bowls with Mahomes? Build the team sustainably over the long-term and make every season a pretty good shot at breaking through.

The team's going to look and play different. It's going to be built different. You're acting like because Hill isn't around, there's no way important game-winning plays can get made by any other player at any other position.
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I’m interested in seeing what the offense will look like with an actual WR corps and not just one damn good one.

Demarcus Robinson and Byron Pringle really held this team back last year. They couldn’t consistently beat single coverage and that seemed to really slow us down .

I think Juju and MVS are much better talents that will help as long as we can get a viable WR this next week through the draft
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I never got why the NFL media has pushed the narrative that Mahomes has been surrounded with the best weapons in the NFL. Beyond 18, the Mahomes has had Hill and Kelce and a bunch of scrubs. Hell, even the line was trash to below average until last year.

Collectively, this is the best offensive talent he's had since 2018 to play with.
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I agree with this and will go even further.

There has been a tendency to feed Hill no matter what; now, is that Andy? Or is that Mahomes? My eyes tell me it's Mahomes. Some of that is likely because of the huge drop-off in ability with the lesser WR's.

In 2021, Hill averaged 11.2 yards per catch. That's not explosive. Is it due to his talent? No, it's the defenses being deployed to stop him.

Does it matter, though? No, not really. The results are the results.

Mahomes is otherwordly talented, but there are still some tendencies that need to be curbed. One of which is the desire to just feed Hill and land the kill shot every play. Too much hero ball. It's just not a sustainable offensive plan, we saw it a lot last season, and it destroyed the team in the AFCCG.

It's entirely possible that an offense that does NOT have Hill may be more efficient, spreading the ball around more, and breaking KC's own tendencies. An evolution, if you will. From 'hero ball' to 'The Terminator'. Relentless. Everywhere. Every blade of grass threatened from every angle.
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imagine if Hill doesn't drop the pass in OT vs the Bengals. What's the conversation we are having?
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