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Nzoner's Game Room>Seth Keysor sees what we see...
DJ's left nut 09:14 AM Yesterday
https://open.substack.com/pub/mnchie...utm_medium=web

I don't typically re-post his stuff because I think you want to support guys trying to freelance like he does. But I think this contributes to conversation enough to be worthwhile.

Spoiler!



It's what many of us have been saying - those folks that are killing the OT play just aren't paying that much attention. Yes, it's been bad at times. No, it's not the primary problem for a great deal many of these games.

On Sunday the issues were overwhelmingly Trey Smith and Patrick Mahomes. The pass protection issues have extended well beyond the OT play. And Patrick Mahomes is the single biggest culprit to the misfiring offense (at least he was in Buffalo and that was just a continuation of what we've seen this season, IMO)
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KC_Connection 06:22 PM Today
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Lol, please show the formula for calculating QBR, not some broad definition without specifics. Thanks.
If you don’t want to do your reading, that’s not on me.
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xztop123 06:24 PM Today
I think mahomes had a higher qbr than Allen on Sunday lol.
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mr. tegu 06:24 PM Today
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Again, it wasn’t a take. Josh Allen has a better QBR than Patrick Mahomes in the regular season since 2020. You can try to spin that as many times and in as many ways as you want but it won’t change that fact.


He isn’t and it hasn’t even been close the last two seasons. I’ll ask again, though, who are you taking come playoff time between the two despite that? And if it is Mahomes, why?

Who has more passing yards, TDs, completion %, wins, fewer INTs, fewer fumbles, higher passer rating?

You are truly taking this very hard that Mahomes needs to play better. Again your question is so stupid it’s hard to fathom.
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xztop123 06:24 PM Today
Josh Allen is the bills problem?
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xztop123 06:25 PM Today
Chase Daniel in his chiefs bills review said mahomes played well.

But I have to defer to Seth keysor, sorry. Chase Daniel
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KC_Connection 06:26 PM Today
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
Who has more passing yards, TDs, completion %, wins, fewer INTs, fewer fumbles, higher passer rating?

You are truly taking this very hard that Mahomes needs to play better. Again your question is so stupid it’s hard to fathom.
So I presume from that answer you are taking Mahomes despite the fact that Josh Allen destroys his regular season numbers the last two years? If so, why?
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Megatron96 06:27 PM Today
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
If you don’t want to do your reading, that’s not on me.


I have. Several times in the past. Because I wanted to calculate it for myself. But there's several pieces that aren't given in that little explanation ESPN gives, so you can't calculate it for yourself. At least, not based on that description they give.

But if you think you can do the math, based on that description, by all means, let's see the work. Or, at least, let's see the equation(s).
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KC_Connection 06:28 PM Today
Originally Posted by xztop123:
Chase Daniel in his chiefs bills review said mahomes played well.

But I have to defer to Seth keysor, sorry. Chase Daniel
What I can say is there’s never been a group of fans more spoiled than the Chiefs fans trashing Patrick Mahomes in the middle of a 9-1 season coming off B2B SBs because he lost a November game to the Bills (and I had to witness the entire Patriots dynasty).

Just pathetic stuff.
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mr. tegu 06:33 PM Today
Originally Posted by -King-:
So he can play great in BOTH the regular season and post season and is just choosing not to? Interesting.


It's going to be hilarious when he gets back to his normal self in the regular season and you have to pretend that you don't care. Or do you think he'll be a 20TD 10+INT checkdown artist the rest of his career in regular season?

His only motivation for this idiocy is to run cover for Mahomes needing to play better. In his mind, it looks better if Mahomes “could” play better but is choosing not to and thus this means Mahomes doesn’t care, and apparently that’s a good explanation for his poor play.
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Megatron96 06:36 PM Today
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
His only motivation for this idiocy is to run cover for Mahomes needing to play better. In his mind, it looks better if Mahomes “could” play better but is choosing not to and thus this means Mahomes doesn’t care, and apparently that’s a good explanation for his poor play.


Not to argue, but what KCC is saying that the rest of us (including most of the professional analysts out there) shouldn't believe our lying eyes when the tape quite clearly says Pat isn't playing very well, because "QBR."
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KC_Connection 06:37 PM Today
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
His only motivation for this idiocy is to run cover for Mahomes needing to play better. In his mind, it looks better if Mahomes “could” play better but is choosing not to and thus this means Mahomes doesn’t care, and apparently that’s a good explanation for his poor play.
So if Mahomes truly is just worse than Josh Allen in the regular season now (as he has been quite clearly for two seasons running), why are you still taking him in the playoffs?

Why not go with the guy who has had 2 dominant regular seasons in a row?
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KC_Connection 06:39 PM Today
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Not to argue, but what KCC is saying that the rest of us (including most of the professional analysts out there) shouldn't believe our lying eyes when the tape quite clearly says Pat isn't playing very well, because "QBR."
To be more accurate, I believe I’m effectively saying both of those things.
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mr. tegu 06:54 PM Today
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
So if Mahomes truly is just worse than Josh Allen in the regular season now (as he has been quite clearly for two seasons running), why are you still taking him in the playoffs?

Why not go with the guy who has had 2 dominant regular seasons in a row?

Now Allen is having a dominating season even though he isn’t top 5 in any stat besides maybe one? You are truly a clown. I’ll repeat.

Me: Mahomes is better in the regular and post season.

You: well why aren’t you taking Allen in the post season?
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KC_Connection 06:59 PM Today
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
Now Allen is having a dominating season even though he isn’t top 5 in any stat besides maybe one? You are truly a clown. I’ll repeat.
QBRs above 70 the last two seasons is pretty dominant, no? It certainly is compared to what Mahomes has done in 2023 and 2024 at least.

Why are you taking Mahomes in the postseason over Allen given that?
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htismaqe 07:09 PM Today
:-)
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