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DeezNutz 08:33 PM 09-20-2009
Has anyone seen him? His friends and family are worried.

What happened to our impact LB? The sack machine? The difference maker?
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DaneMcCloud 10:49 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think the Hunts have been pretty good for the NFL but no where near the two you mentioned.
Lamar Hunt was great for the NFL 50 years ago.

In the past 38? Not so much.
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doomy3 10:50 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by Mecca:
The money I referred to is about signing bonuses, the Giants turn more money than the Chiefs so they can drop huge bonuses every year if they choose and still make money.

It's no coincidence the Chiefs usually sign guys every other year...they don't turn the same kinda cash the Giants do.
But for the most part, this is not at all how the Giants have operated. Yeah, they gave a lot of money to Canty, and we'll see how that plays out. THey also re-signed Eli to a ton of money, but many teams give QBs huge contracts. Including us.

THe Giants are where they are at due to incredibly smart drafting, and not because they have a ton of money because they're in NY. It is smart personnel moves.
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DaneMcCloud 10:51 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by O.city:
Who do you see the Chiefs target next year?
If it's an uncapped year, probably no one.

Restricted free agents are no longer free after 4 years.

It'll be five years, making it unlikely that anyone with massive talent will be stuck with their current team and current contract for one more year.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 10:51 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
But for the most part, this is not at all how the Giants have operated. Yeah, they gave a lot of money to Canty, and we'll see how that plays out. THey also re-signed Eli to a ton of money, but many teams give QBs huge contracts. Including us.

THe Giants are where they are at due to incredibly smart drafting, and not because they have a ton of money because they're in NY. It is smart personnel moves.
Of course it's due to smart personnel moves, but they also have a built in fiscal advantage with the cash on hand, which allows them to get more players for the same cap dollars due to how they structure the contracts.
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DaneMcCloud 10:52 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
But for the most part, this is not at all how the Giants have operated. Yeah, they gave a lot of money to Canty, and we'll see how that plays out. THey also re-signed Eli to a ton of money, but many teams give QBs huge contracts. Including us.

THe Giants are where they are at due to incredibly smart drafting, and not because they have a ton of money because they're in NY. It is smart personnel moves.
But they also have a shit ton of money available, unlike a team like the Chiefs.
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Mecca 10:52 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
But for the most part, this is not at all how the Giants have operated. Yeah, they gave a lot of money to Canty, and we'll see how that plays out. THey also re-signed Eli to a ton of money, but many teams give QBs huge contracts. Including us.

THe Giants are where they are at due to incredibly smart drafting, and not because they have a ton of money because they're in NY. It is smart personnel moves.
Right they've drafted well but they have the cash there to keep all those guys around and go get a FA if they want one.

In a matter of 2 years they gave giant contracts to Eli, Tuck and Canty, it's hard to see the Chiefs doing that because of the cash difference.
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O.city 10:52 PM 09-21-2009
Oh just looked at the schedule forgot Pitt is on there. Talk about a bad one.
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doomy3 10:52 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Bullshit.

The Chiefs stadium DOES NOT provide the same or even close to the same amount of income that's afforded to teams like the Giants, Jets, Cowboys, etc.

They just don't have the same cash.

Why do you think people like Jerry Jones wants the CBA to change? He wants LESS of his money to go to teams like the Chiefs and has said so recently in print.
I'm not arguing who is more profitable. I am simply stating that they all operate under the same salary cap and rules for operating under it. This isn't MLB.

I'm not sure why you would infer that don't understand about large market teams and the CBA. Maybe you missed the part where I said "this all becomes moot if something can't get done with the CBA."
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Mecca 10:53 PM 09-21-2009
Let's put it this way, the Giants cash advantage means they can structure contracts to barely lose anyone even if they have a shitload of good players.
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O.city 10:54 PM 09-21-2009
Yeah but I think the Chiefs are just a few players away from being more atleast competitive , atleast in the AFC west as the Chargers are probably on the downfall at least a little.
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doomy3 10:54 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Right they've drafted well but they have the cash there to keep all those guys around and go get a FA if they want one.

In a matter of 2 years they gave giant contracts to Eli, Tuck and Canty, it's hard to see the Chiefs doing that because of the cash difference.
We just gave Cassel a huge contract. I expect us to do the same for Bowe soon, probably next year. And, by all accounts we were trying to throw large money at Haynesworth this past offseason.
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O.city 10:55 PM 09-21-2009
I'll put it this way who would you guys like to see in the red and gold?
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Mecca 10:55 PM 09-21-2009
The Chiefs are 3 players away.....provided those players are John Elway, Lawrence Taylor and Barry Sanders.
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DaneMcCloud 10:55 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
We just gave Cassel a huge contract. I expect us to do the same for Bowe soon, probably next year. And, by all accounts we were trying to throw large money at Haynesworth this past offseason.
It's not that huge.

The Chiefs could easily get out of it next year.
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Mecca 10:55 PM 09-21-2009
Originally Posted by doomy3:
We just gave Cassel a huge contract. I expect us to do the same for Bowe soon, probably next year. And, by all accounts we were trying to throw large money at Haynesworth this past offseason.
Eli's contract is alot bigger than Cassel's isn't it?
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