The sports card market is absolutely booming right now. I sold off enough of my other stuff to buy this. There are only 10 of them. It is indescribably beautiful.
Originally Posted by crispystl420:
Thanks for this! What is a “break” where multiple people throw in on a pack ?
Also how do I know what I’m buying off eBay is legit ?
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A break is where people will pool money together to absorb the cost of a product in either a full case or box. You will have breaks that you can pick the team, known as PYT or "pick your team" breaks. Depending on the team the cost of entry can vary. Some teams cost more, some teams less. Chiefs obviously are expensive. A filler on a PYT is where the remaining teams that haven't been sold in the PYT prior to breaking are added together and then sold as RT, Random Teams to those who filled with the cost being spread out among those filling for a equal entry price. Not all breakers do this as it can create accounting nightmares. Random Team, or RT breaks where everyone pays the same entry price and the teams are randomized to those who paid in. You aren't guaranteed a team you would want, but on the flip side you can get lucky and get randomized a high dollar team like the Chiefs for a lower price than if it were a PYT break. Then there are RNB or "random number breaks" where depending on the breaker the rules can vary. But a simple example would be a right side RNB break. Every number from 0-9 will be randomized to each person in the break. There are only 10 people in these breaks so the entry price will usually be more than a PYT or RT break that spreads the price over 30 teams or so. But at the same time, you can really win big sometimes on RNB breaks.
That is about as quick of rundown I can give on what a case break is. There are other types of breaks but those are the main types of breaks you will run across. Watch a few breaks on youtube to give yourself a idea. Here is a older break from a couple years ago with a great Mahomes RC pull.
How do you tell if a card is legit off of ebay? It can come down to many factors. Putting it easily as possible. Thinking back to when you were a kid before they put autographs in packs and you had a card signed by a player at a card show, or game. Modern hand signed cards without a maker guarantee on the back. Those are the type of cards to stay the hell away from. A card made today will be guaranteed by the maker. On the back of a hand signed Panini card will say, This autograph is guaranteed by Panini. The sticker autos will say the same but have a hologram in the sticker. On a hand signed Topps it will say on the back, You recieved a Topps Certified autograph from whatever product it may it be from. Topps Sticker autos will have hologram as well in the sticker. Each maker Panini, Topps/Bowman, Leaf, Upper Deck have there own modern day authenticating markers on their cards. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tatorhog:
The cert checks out for a 1981 Montana in psa8, although it makes no mention of the autograph. The flip just looks wrong and the top of the case appears to have been tampered with. I wouldn't touch that card for $10 lol
Ive been tracking the 1981 Joe Montana PSA 8 Card & it’s been getting about $300/Card. PSA 10’s are insane.
Originally Posted by RubberSponge:
A break is where people will pool money together to absorb the cost of a product in either a full case or box.
How do you tell if a card is legit off of ebay? It can come down to many factors. Putting it easily as possible. Thinking back to when you were a kid before they put autographs in packs and you had a card signed by a player at a card show, or game. Modern hand signed cards without a maker guarantee on the back. Those are the type of cards to stay the hell away from. A card made today will be guaranteed by the maker. On the back of a hand signed Panini card will say, This autograph is guaranteed by Panini. The sticker autos will say the same but have a hologram in the sticker. On a hand signed Topps it will say on the back, You recieved a Topps Certified autograph from whatever product it may it be from. Topps Sticker autos will have hologram as well in the sticker. Each maker Panini, Topps/Bowman, Leaf, Upper Deck have there own modern day authenticating markers on their cards.
Sounds like a ChiefsPlanet kinda deal. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Sounds like a ChiefsPlanet kinda deal. :-)
They were breaking their 213th PYT NT case. That's not including RNB breaks as well. Those cases at the time were about 2-3k depending on the time of the year. Now much more, like 30k+.
The only scam artist I’ve run into on eBay was a seller who only had a (1 ) for positive. I should have known the deal was too good. I sent my money by PayPal & he cashed it & I waited a couple of weeks & nothing. I contacted him & he said he was new at eBay....
“I had my bid time out a week ago and sent the card to the bidder at that time. I may not have closed it out. I figured when the auction timed out and I printed the shipping label that it was done. I just tracked the card ad was delivered in Florida on the 4th. I tried to find a way to call e-bay and it is impossible. I am going to look at my pay pal now. I can refund you if you paid me. I will be back & I just looked and I have no idea why the card was still up. I apologize but the card was paid for on 6/1 and the label was printed that day and shipped to a guy in Florida who paid $58.08 for the card.
Your payment is still on hold in paypal. Please delete it as it is on hold this card has been shipped and paid for by the time your bid hit and you put the paypal hold on it.”
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Ive been tracking the 1981 Joe Montana PSA 8 Card & it’s been getting about $300/Card. PSA 10’s are insane.
What’s your advice on that card?
Buy raw, in person and take a ruler to make sure it hasn't been trimmed. Make sure the seller will sell with a price comparable to ebay prices for raw Montana RC's. Then send it in to be graded. You could realistically be in that for right around $100 or so bucks considering $80 for great looking raw card and $20 to grade. [Reply]
