Originally Posted by Snerd:
Yeah, I was surprised they didn't try that. They must REALLY feel that Taylor isn't the answer (event temporarily) at LT.
I mean it's kind of a risk having 2 possible sh*t show positions, you can see the logic in just going steady at RT. But as DJ said, the baptism of fire approach was the harder decision to justify. Just give Kingsley some help. I'm not sure ultimately it would've mattered. It might just have been bring in Donovan Smith earlier as a "just below average but sort of passable" guy as insurance and go from there. But still, definitely a high risk approach that didn't work [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Moving Taylor would have just resulted in Kingsley or Wanya starting at RT. They would have had a hole either way.
They're trying to do this with the least amount of shuffling possible.
RT is Wanyas natural side so it might have worked. And the added benefit of Mahomes being able to see if Wanya messes up instead of it being in his blindside. Similar to Wylie. [Reply]
Taylor has never played LT In his football career. Never in college or the pro's. And imo that's why they never moved him because he has no reps there. Morris played a whole season at LT in college and so did Kingsley so it was a logical thing to play them there. Kingsley still has time to improve but man he better work his ass off in the offseason. He should live with his cousin for a few months if need be. Just do all he can to get better. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Taylor has never played LT In his football career. Never in college or the pro's. And imo that's why they never moved him because he has no reps there. Morris played a whole season at LT in college and so did Kingsley so it was a logical thing to play them there. Kingsley still has time to improve but man he better work his ass off in the offseason. He should live with his cousin for a few months if need be. Just do all he can to get better.
Kingsley had a few decent reps in those early games. He certainly passes the eye test. Hope he works out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
If his jersey said "Morris" on the back, people would've barbecued him for that Chargers game.
No, he was nothing resembling 'amazing'. He got better as the game went on and looked okay in the 2nd half before getting hurt. But he was getting beat up in that first half.
Is there reasonable hope that it was just rust and he'll improve? Of course -- but lets not go saying things that just aren't true. He gave up 5 pressures in 44 pass reps - that's NOT amazing. Morris only gave up more than 5 pressures in a single game this season. He had maybe 2 games that were as rough as Humphries game this year -- the LV game (obviously) and the TB game.
Thuney wasn't a fix. Humphries wasn't an obvious improvement over what we got from Morris for about 90% of the season.
This team needs to find improvement beyond merely LT. DJ Humphries will NOT be a panacea. There are issues all over this offense.
Thank you for articulating this. Humphries and Thuney looked very similar to Morris. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
People aren’t giving Thuney enough credit for the job he did playing out of position against an All Pro.
He did a great job, for a guard. No ones discounting that he did the best he could and a job he shouldn't be asked to do. That said, he doesn't need to do it unless its an emergency. He's not an NFL left tackle. He is an all pro guard. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Yeah never understood why Taylor wasn't moved to LT. I'm still not sure why they think Thuney is a better option at LT than Taylor is.
In-season, I get it.
Why it didn't happen over the summer is beyond my understanding. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
People aren’t giving Thuney enough credit for the job he did playing out of position against an All Pro.
Because he mostly got beat. A lot.
If you want to say "He did an admirable job for a guy playing out of position who doesn't have the physical tools to handle the job against a monster of an opponent..."
Sure, I'll accept that.
But he didn't do an amazing job. Or a great job. Or even a good job. The performance we got out of our left tackle on Sunday was sub-standard. You can grade him on whatever curve you'd like but that fact will still need to be acknowledged.
It's not an indictment on Thuney at all - it's a word of caution for those that think that situation is in any way tenable long-term. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
In-season, I get it.
Why it didn't happen over the summer is beyond my understanding.
Probably because he struggled with penalties last year. The NFL further was cracking down on a lot of his little advantages like lining up in the back field, leaving early... I think they were hoping he would still be above average RT. [Reply]