One of the best WR prospects at the catch point and winning leverage mid-route. He consistently sets up defenders to put them on his back, locates the ball, and attacks it at the highest point.
Rashee Rice was drafted with pick 55 of round 2 in the 2023 draft class. He scored a 9.53 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 145 out of 3062 WR from 1987 to 2023. https://t.co/lwD9tvVPvvpic.twitter.com/YjucxErSE1
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Didn’t Andy kinda say they were simplifying things a bit “so the WRs can go out and play fast”?
Yeah. I'm not seeing 'simple' on second watch. Looks like the same concepts to me.
Just looks like guys playing better.
ALSO-read what Reid and Mahomes said in the press conference. No mention of dumbing anything down. Just saying Rice is a smart kid and is understanding things better. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Dude, the only game being played here is an argument game you love playing.
I hate to tell you, but other than the flea flicker (which just happened on my screen), nah, it's the usual stuff. Mahomes is much more decisive and willing to dump it to the back in the flat-which is enormously helpful, because it forces the defense to have to cover that, which means they're not as ready to cover deep. And the guys are playing crisp all over the field. Rice and Kelce in particular.
It's great, it's extremely encouraging, but it's not really different. It's the same concepts.
you've just decided it's different, even though you cannot show any proof, and what you do offer as examples aren't different at all than what they usually do.
So no, man.
Did they simplify things? Quite possibly. We have no way of knowing. Declaring it as a fact is dumb. It's the same concepts they've run for years. There's NOTHING you can point to and say-THERE. THAT RIGHT THERE. THAT'S NEW. Unless it's the flea flicker. If you want to hang your hat on that, okay.
Andy called a great three quarters, Mahomes was decisive, the guys did their jobs in a crisp manner with fewer mistakes. Period.
I feel like you already know it but just don't want to acknowledge it. You've already agreed on most of it
We changed the rotation
Shelved mvs
Basically phased our bottom 3 WRs out of progressions
Intentionally drew up lots of plays specifically designed for rashee and Pacheco to get easy catches. It wasn't just checking down to guys he ignored before. Including lots of mesh and drags bc the raiders tripled down on spying mahomes all game
Mahomes didn't just make reads quicker. It was by design. Quick read / quick read / flats - which you know. Which means Mahomes/Kelce improvise less, receivers run more on timing. You have a statement from the head coach himself which you shrugged off that all but verifies they were asking WRs to do way less
We didn't ask mvs skyy or Watson to execute better. We told them to get out of the way and funnel everything to our top 3 guys.
These are all big strategic decisions way different from anything we've done before.but it was all execution? Cmon man. [Reply]
It was around this time that Jet became a major rip cord and end zone threat last year, right? I felt like that gave our offense another dimension that we rode into the playoffs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Guys, those outlets to Pacheco have been available all season long. Mahomes just hasn't taken them often, choosing to wait for someone to clear downfield. Those shallow crossers are not new, it's a staple of Andy's offense.
All of them, even Mahomes just flat executed the offense as it's always been designed a lot better.
That's not to say that there were no new looks, but there's always new window dressing for what are Andy's fundamental concepts.
But arguing that there was some big change in philosophy is wrong. They just flat played better, and took what the defense gave them and didn't shoot themselves in the foot.
Emphasis on not turning the ball over and not getting penalties was apparent.
Mahomes threw the ball away or checked down several times he could have made a risky throw. He was in full on protect the ball mode. [Reply]
Rice has an outside chance for a 1000 yard rookie season. 1000 yards and 8 TDs would be fantastic and a big bright spot for our otherwise under achieving WRs. [Reply]
Just another example of how Rice wins his routes on time. Quick foot-fire to get the guy looking outside then immediately plants that left leg and simply screens the DB off before accelerating past him.
We waited far too long to use him like we're using him. The only thing he isn't is a downfield burner but even then, with his body control and physicality at the catch point, I'd be fine giving him a YOLO ball or two per game.
We need to run the passing game through him going forward. Yes, even ahead of Kelce. We've gotta get defenses outside conscious or we'll continue to face all that traffic up the seams.
He needs to continue to see 10+ targets/gm. [Reply]
I like Rice, but I hope he works on securing the ball, after his catches. He has gotten lucky in that some of his 'fumbles' were after he was considered down by contact. [Reply]
You know what else I really like about that route? It looks like he flattened it a little bit. I'm not 100% sure that route was designed to break at the 90 degrees he broke it at, but he did it to buy just a little more space before getting back into the slant angle.
That small change to the route and then getting right back to the proper angle allowed him to create the space for the YAC while also catching the pass at full speed.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
DB even had inside leverage.
Just another example of how Rice wins his routes on time. Quick foot-fire to get the guy looking outside then immediately plants that left leg and simply screens the DB off before accelerating past him.
We waited far too long to use him like we're using him. The only thing he isn't is a downfield burner but even then, with his body control and physicality at the catch point, I'd be fine giving him a YOLO ball or two per game.
We need to run the passing game through him going forward. Yes, even ahead of Kelce. We've gotta get defenses outside conscious or we'll continue to face all that traffic up the seams.
He needs to continue to see 10+ targets/gm.
We don't need Mecole Hardman as much as JuJu right now so I agree. If Josh Downs can get 12 targets a game we better not worry about doing the same with Rice. [Reply]