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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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New World Order 03:37 PM 12-18-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
"Most complete rookie back" but has to be taken out of the game in obvious passing situations because he's a dreadful pass protector.


As far as running/catching there isn't a rookie like him.

He'll get the pass protection figured out. That's teachable.

But you can't teach a player how to run and catch like Hunt.

Truly one of a kind.
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Sassy Squatch 03:38 PM 12-18-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
"Most complete rookie back" but has to be taken out of the game in obvious passing situations because he's a dreadful pass protector.


Surely you can do better. Come on, Knowmo. Back the claim up that Hunt will be the 6th or 7th best RB from this class.
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jjchieffan 03:43 PM 12-18-2017
Originally Posted by KranzDictum:
Hill is legit, I wouldn't go best in the NFL, he still drops too many easy passes to say he is the best. I don't know why Andy doesn't have alice chuck it deep to him every time he sees a single high safety and let reek use his speed to abuse the catch. He seems to understand how to get separation in traffic too so it could extend his career once his speed starts to go.

You guys hit on Hunt too. Not sure why he wasn't picked higher, must have been the small time college but he runs though trash very well. Another guy Andy needs to use more.
Read it again. I did not say that he was the best. I said that he was one of the best. And I stand by that. He is easily a top 10 receiver in the NFL. Top 5 may be pushing it, but he's close to that.
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NJChiefsFan 03:43 PM 12-18-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
"Most complete rookie back" but has to be taken out of the game in obvious passing situations because he's a dreadful pass protector.


A rookie RB that has issues pass protecting?! Oh no! Good things running backs can't get better at pass blocking......

The narrative that Hill has bad hands is also false. And what in the world kind of argument is "if he didn't have this" he wouldn't be as good?

If Hill is putting up these numbers before he learns to run routes then sign me up. You can improve on pass blocking. You can improve on running routes. Give me the talent and I will deal with them developing those skills.
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Toad 04:10 PM 12-18-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
McCaffery isn't a gadget guy. He's a RB/slot receiver/returner. He has better hands and route running ability than Hill does.

I'm not saying Hill is a bad player. He's just not a number 1 WR. You completely neuter Hill by putting a safety over the top of him. Tyreek Hill is the last "#1 WR" I'd want to go to on 4th and 5 with the game on the line.
Making yourself look foolish...
Safety over the top is a made situation for Kelce down the seam. Safety retreating for deep coverage usually means LB on Kelce which opens the box for Hunt. See how that works?
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Mile High Mania 07:21 AM 12-19-2017
Hunt has had an incredible year... sure, the middle stretch was kind of bland. But, he looks to be closing it just as he opened it up, on a tear.
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RealSNR 10:54 AM 12-19-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
McCaffery isn't a gadget guy. He's a RB/slot receiver/returner. He has better hands and route running ability than Hill does.

I'm not saying Hill is a bad player. He's just not a number 1 WR. You completely neuter Hill by putting a safety over the top of him. Tyreek Hill is the last "#1 WR" I'd want to go to on 4th and 5 with the game on the line.
At this point he's Steve Smith light. Which is pretty damn good. He has the potential to be that kind of player if he keeps improving.

You're gonna tell me Steve Smith isn't a #1 WR?
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staylor26 10:56 AM 12-19-2017
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
At this point he's Steve Smith light. Which is pretty damn good. He has the potential to be that kind of player if he keeps improving.

You're gonna tell me Steve Smith isn't a #1 WR?
Any WR that can put up 1,000+ yards and 7+ TD’s with Alex at QB is clearly a #1.
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Best22 11:02 AM 12-19-2017
"Mixon is the best runningback in the draft!"

:-) :-)

Then the real games start and some kid from Toledo is leading everybody in rushing (except Le'veon, but he gets 55 carries a game).
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Quesadilla Joe 12:07 PM 12-19-2017
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
At this point he's Steve Smith light. Which is pretty damn good. He has the potential to be that kind of player if he keeps improving.

You're gonna tell me Steve Smith isn't a #1 WR?
Steve Smith was TO trapped in a small body. Tyreek Hill is a mix of Devin Hester and Reggie Bush.
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Easy 6 12:10 PM 12-19-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Steve Smith was TO trapped in a small body. Tyreek Hill is a mix of Devin Hester and Reggie Bush.
Pure horseshit :-)
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Best22 12:10 PM 12-19-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Steve Smith was TO trapped in a small body. Tyreek Hill is a mix of Devin Hester and Reggie Bush.
:-)

Hester never sniffed a 1000 yard receiving season

Hester was a far superior kickoff return man, I'll give you that.
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Quesadilla Joe 12:18 PM 12-19-2017
Originally Posted by Toad:
Making yourself look foolish...
Safety over the top is a made situation for Kelce down the seam. Safety retreating for deep coverage usually means LB on Kelce which opens the box for Hunt. See how that works?
Yeah I get it, Hill's speed makes him a great decoy. He's a special little gadget guy who's a threat to take it 80+ yards on every play. He just can't get open unless he outruns one-on-one coverage.
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Sassy Squatch 12:19 PM 12-19-2017
Wow. Its not hard to understand why you spend most of your time regurgitating pundits. The football opinions you have are laughably bad.
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Bewbies 12:20 PM 12-19-2017
Dude's an effective troll for sure. :-)
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