Some fun here. Edwards-Helaire rushed for 1,415 yards and 16 touchdowns as a junior .. all-purpose yards -- receiving (55 receptions, 453 yards) and kick returner (KEY) 10 returns, 214 yards pic.twitter.com/3Duq1jjy6J
Holy offense Bat Man. I love Clyde Edwards-Helaire. He is best Rb in the draft. Watkins and Hill deep. Kelce in the middle. And Edwards-Helaire underneath. Good Luck defenses.
Brett Veach told Andy Reid to watch some Clyde Edwards-Helaire film and told Reid you’ll see Brian Westbrook. Reid watched. Then got back to Veach and said he’s better than Westbrook.
Clyde would be amazing behind a decent interior OL. He is so elusive and slippery. It’s funny they said this offense suited him so well, as a runner I don’t think it does. As a receiver I think he will eventually be a weapon. But the way we’re running him does not impress me.
It would also help if Andy actually gave him the ball on a consistent basis or did anything but run him up the gut on 2nd and 10. The lack of preseason really hurt what we could have done with him. But he’s still been moderately impressive. Obvious talent but I don’t think Andy really knows how to use him yet. But he’ll figure it out because he’s god damn Andy Reid. [Reply]
Jacksonville has an undrafted rookie RB named James Robinson who is outplaying CEH in a worse offense. I like CEH, but he is not living up to his draft position and he clearly isn’t a goaline back. No reason for the Chiefs to have reached form him in the 1st round. Even if CEH gets 5 or 6 receptions a game, those would normally be going to Tyreek or Kelce, don’t see how that’s a good thing. Tyreek isn’t getting as many targets this year as he has in the past and that’s a shame. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kevrunner:
Jacksonville has an undrafted rookie RB named James Robinson who is outplaying CEH in a worse offense. I like CEH, but he is not living up to his draft position and he clearly isn’t a goaline back. No reason for the Chiefs to have reached form him in the 1st round. Even if CEH gets 5 or 6 receptions a game, those would normally be going to Tyreek or Kelce, don’t see how that’s a good thing. Tyreek isn’t getting as many targets this year as he has in the past and that’s a shame.
Robinson is NOT outplaying CEH. They're almost interchangeable at this point.
Curious why you only have James Robinson with 1 rushing TD when he has 3. Their stats are pretty similar, except for Robinson’s TDs. Outplayed might not have been the word I should have used, but clearly the Chiefs would have been way better off using the 1st round pick on a different position and grab a RB later. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kevrunner:
Curious why you only have James Robinson with 1 rushing TD when he has 3. Their stats are pretty similar, except for Robinson’s TDs. Outplayed might not have been the word I should have used, but clearly the Chiefs would have been way better off using the 1st round pick on a different position and grab a RB later.
Sorry, typo. He does have 3.
And when you're picking #32 overall, does it really matter? They got a full-time starter out of a pick that is practically a 2nd rounder. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Clyde needs to read the blocks/holes a little better, but the talent is clearly there. Dude has been great receiving and finishing runs.
A big part of it is the OL is not good at run blocking, made worse now that Big O is done, and the holes are not there like they should be - especially against 3 and 4 man fronts. KC should be able to punish teams for dropping everyone back into coverage. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TEX:
A big part of it is the OL is not good at run blocking, made worse now that Big O is done, and the holes are not there like they should be - especially against 3 and 4 man fronts. KC should be able to punish teams for dropping everyone back into coverage.
It's kind of the opposite of the Alex Smith years.
The box is wide open now. Before when the run would get fisted we would blame it on checkdowns and everyone loading the box.
Not that way anymore.
CEH has been okay, but I was a expecting a little more. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TEX:
A big part of it is the OL is not good at run blocking, made worse now that Big O is done, and the holes are not there like they should be - especially against 3 and 4 man fronts. KC should be able to punish teams for dropping everyone back into coverage.
Yep running the ball is how you beat 8 man coverage [Reply]
This thread is fantastic. Agreed, CEH has flashed huge potential. But he's not there yet. And having bell puts less pressure on him to quickly learn and also forces less than 25 touches a game which is way too high for a rookie. [Reply]
