Chiefs *****The Xavier Worthy Thread***** - Page 124

Originally Posted by RunKC:
Rashee didn’t start putting it together until around Thanksgiving. It takes time.

Last night Worthy was ass but it’s mental stuff, not ability

This is absolutely not true. Rashee was ascending at a damn near linear pace the whole season. By the time mid season rolled around he was absolutely finding soft spots in the zone and by seasons end was playing like a vet and was absolutely clutch in the playoffs.

Worthy had 0 catches for 0 yards last night and had a walk in touchdown that he absolutely just shit the bed on. The fact that it IS mental is EVEN WORSE.

The sideline route he didn't even get a single foot in bounds! That's atrocious FOR COLLEGE.

Yes I hope he gets it together but IT AINT LOOKING GOOD. So far dude has BEEN ASS.
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I'm a bit worried about Worthy, too, I was expecting his name to be coming up more in games, especially with Brown/Rice out, hopefully he can learn some things from a very established vet receiver in DHOP, and even Juju
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
This is absolutely not true. Rashee was ascending at a damn near linear pace the whole season. By the time mid season rolled around he was absolutely finding soft spots in the zone and by seasons end was playing like a vet and was absolutely clutch in the playoffs.

Worthy had 0 catches for 0 yards last night and had a walk in touchdown that he absolutely just shit the bed on. The fact that it IS mental is EVEN WORSE.

The sideline route he didn't even get a single foot in bounds! That's atrocious FOR COLLEGE.

Yes I hope he gets it together but IT AINT LOOKING GOOD. So far dude has BEEN ASS.

I think another issue here is, and again there aren't any excuses, but the Chiefs get the best shot from every team they play, we are everyone's Superbowl, the defenses are much more stingy, not great for a rookie to spread their wings. Also, what doesn't help matters is how much drama the WR position has had with the Chiefs the last few seasons.
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Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
This is absolutely not true. Rashee was ascending at a damn near linear pace the whole season. By the time mid season rolled around he was absolutely finding soft spots in the zone and by seasons end was playing like a vet and was absolutely clutch in the playoffs.

Worthy had 0 catches for 0 yards last night and had a walk in touchdown that he absolutely just shit the bed on. The fact that it IS mental is EVEN WORSE.

The sideline route he didn't even get a single foot in bounds! That's atrocious FOR COLLEGE.

Yes I hope he gets it together but IT AINT LOOKING GOOD. So far dude has BEEN ASS.

Can’t believe you people watched Kadarius Toney, Skyy Moore and MVS drop passes non-stop and think a mental error of getting your feet down in bounds while catching the ball is somehow worse :-)

These are fixable problems. Having horrific hands like those 3 other guys isn’t fixable
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Maybe he rides to work with Rice. Or should
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Originally Posted by RunKC:
Can’t believe you people watched Kadarius Toney, Skyy Moore and MVS drop passes non-stop and think a mental error of getting your feet down in bounds while catching the ball is somehow worse :-)

These are fixable problems. Having horrific hands like those 3 other guys isn’t fixable

We didn't draft any of those guys in the first round, and again, that play would be ASS for college.

The NFL is separated by the mental game. I never said it wasn't fixable so that's a strawman. I'm saying, so far, he's not looking great. No one can say that he is because last night was ASSSSS. Straight dirty stank ass.

He's only getting a pass by some due to his draft status. So far, he's been super super mid.
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I think Worthy will be fine.

- Rookie mistake with the footwork last night, but let's not lose sight of the fact that he knew where to go (within 6 inches), and was wide ass open.

- I hate reverse/stretch plays to the short side of the field. Even more so when you consider that Worthy will go down on first contact because of his frame, so unless he has space to move and it's blocked perfectly, it's probably not a great play call for him.

- There's clips each week of him being wide ass open downfield.
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He'll be fine. The long ball to him at the sideline COULD have been placed a little better, as he had at least 5 yds between the sideline and the defender. As DJN said earlier, he was wide open for quite a while but PM was late with the throw. But yes, he screwed up the catch. Should've been TD or just short.
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I'll bet he and PM have it down good by the playoffs, no different than MVS did in his time here. He's 21, he's a rook, it's still not even half through the year. I don't think the staff has quite figured out yet how to use him in the 1-15 yard range.

Just hope people can recognize by now that he is NOT ever going to be a prototypical high volume #1 WR. He is a useful complement in a system like what KC has, with a QB who can throw it 65+ air yards.

Having a volume #1 like Hopkins and/or Kelce will allow him to thrive in his explosive role, just wait and see...
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People were just way too high on him during the draft imo. He's lethal quick and it already helps us, but there were plenty of people talking up the route running, the YAC, hands. None of it was bad, but plenty was a work in progress, at best. There's a reason the fastest guy ever at the combine wasn't a top 15 pick and it wasn't just because he was rake thin.

He's not Desean Jackson. He's not Devonta Smith even. I don't think he's played well, but he's going to be a useful piece of the puzzle. At worst, a better MVS
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I'll bet he and PM have it down good by the playoffs, no different than MVS did in his time here. He's 21, he's a rook, it's still not even half through the year. I don't think the staff has quite figured out yet how to use him in the 1-15 yard range.

Just hope people can recognize by now that he is NOT ever going to be a prototypical high volume #1 WR. He is a useful complement in a system like what KC has, with a QB who can throw it 65+ air yards.

Having a volume #1 like Hopkins and/or Kelce will allow him to thrive in his explosive role, just wait and see...

We've already forgotten about Rice :-)
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Originally Posted by RunKC:
Can’t believe you people watched Kadarius Toney, Skyy Moore and MVS drop passes non-stop and think a mental error of getting your feet down in bounds while catching the ball is somehow worse :-)

These are fixable problems. Having horrific hands like those 3 other guys isn’t fixable

Toney's drops were absolutely 100% mental. He didn't have bad hands at all - he just tried to run before he caught it.

Mental errors may manifest themselves in a lot of different ways. Worthy's mental error was no better or worse than many of the ones Toney made last year.

And Toney, like Worthy, did draw attention when he was on the field.

The distinction between the two is that Worthy's just a steadier kid. He has a WAY better head on his shoulders. So you can more easily expect that he's going to get the mental stuff ironed out.
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Originally Posted by JPH83:
People were just way too high on him during the draft imo. He's lethal quick and it already helps us, but there were plenty of people talking up the route running, the YAC, hands. None of it was bad, but plenty was a work in progress, at best. There's a reason the fastest guy ever at the combine wasn't a top 15 pick and it wasn't just because he was rake thin.

He's not Desean Jackson. He's not Devonta Smith even. I don't think he's played well, but he's going to be a useful piece of the puzzle. At worst, a better MVS

I think this is a bit harsh and extremely premature. He can easily develop into a DeSean Jackson type of player still.
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Originally Posted by staylor26:
We've already forgotten about Rice :-)

I mean, I think a lot of us said "Hey, if Rice develops as we hope, Hopkins is who he could be..."

Personally I saw Watkins as his prototype. Or Aiyuk. But others saw Hopkins and that's not unreasonable given his frame, play style and body control.

So yeah, if we have the fully formed version of Rice back on the roster in Hopkins, we just lament what the injury means personally for Rice but it's time to move along.

Because this version of Hopkins appears to be better than what we saw from Rice. I wouldn't have believed that for a second but man, D-Hop looks really good out there.
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Originally Posted by seamonster:
Mahomes had to play the safety off with his eyes and then float the ball into that void in their zone. Seemed like it was 100% on Worthy being a lost rookie. Worthy does have good hands and you can't teach speed and getting playing time with a HOF like Hopkins should show him the light.

Nah. Safety was already off and square to the QB. He was beat well before Mahomes threw it. And Mahomes most assuredly didn't have to loft that ball, especially had he unloaded it a bit earlier.

That was a MASSIVE window to throw into and Mahomes just held it a bit too long. It happens.
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