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A search and rescue operation is currently underway to locate a submarine that went missing during an expedition to the Titanic.
The U.S. Coast Guard was looking for the submarine Monday morning after it disappeared during the expedition from St. John's, N.L. The infamous 1912 wreck is located more than 600 kilometres southeast of the province in the North Atlantic Ocean.
The trip to the Titanic was being run by OceanGate Expeditions, a U.S.-based company. It uses a five-person submersible named Titan to reach the wreckage 3,800 metres below the surface. OceanGate's website advertises a seven-night voyage to the Titanic for US$250,000 per person, or approximately CA$330,000.
"We are exploring and mobilizing all options to bring the crew back safely," an OceanGate spokesperson said in an email to CTV News. "Our entire focus is on the crewmembers in the submersible and their families."
Those tours are a series of five eight-day missions to the Titanic with the money raised by tourists going towards Titanic research. Posts on social media show the ship launched from the St. John's area last week.
Did they really have 5 people in this?? Or do they have a larger version??
I've done deep water recreational dives before in standard gear - it was about 130 feet. Shit is so weird at that depth. Light comes through funny; a lot of color gets washed out because all the wavelengths won't make it that far to reflect off the surfaces. Obviously its pretty gray. And man, the lack of spatial orientation is trippy as hell. My last one was on a wreck that slanted into deeper waters and you could go in/out of staterooms along the side, but if you kept following the deck of that ship you'd just...die. And there's nothing to tell you that you're going deeper because you're just scooting along the deck of a ship that SEEMS flat and at about 300 ft long, it just looks like you have an entire ship in front of you still.
i got lost in the world for a little bit and noticed my watch screaming at me - I was at about 140 and dropping. That was a bit of a 'don't freak out...be calm and get yourself under control and back to 120ish...' moment.
I have never had even a little bit of interest in those super-deep dives. A) the training/preparation is crazy but B) I've just heard too many stories about guys having to watch their dive buddies just float to the bottom knowing that they're going to die but they can't do anything about it. There's some absolutely chilling shit you'll read about when that happens. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
The thing that stands out to me is they don't really have a contingency plan if shit goes south. Like, they literally have no way of retrieving the submersible because there's hardly any technology out there that's meant to deal with that depth of the ocean.
Additionally, there's no way out. They're bolted in. Even if best case scenario their comms failed and they are somehow alive, they have no way of getting out unless somehow they're retrieved in time and unbolted.
I guess I understand why there's not a tether or anything, but for a ship that has so little ability to actually navigate itself, that just seems reckless. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I've done deep water recreational dives before in standard gear - it was about 130 feet. Shit is so weird at that depth. Light comes through funny; a lot of color gets washed out because all the wavelengths won't make it that far to reflect off the surfaces. Obviously its pretty gray. And man, the lack of spatial orientation is trippy as hell. My last one was on a wreck that slanted into deeper waters and you could go in/out of staterooms along the side, but if you kept following the deck of that ship you'd just...die. And there's nothing to tell you that you're going deeper because you're just scooting along the deck of a ship that SEEMS flat and at about 300 ft long, it just looks like you have an entire ship in front of you still.
i got lost in the world for a little bit and noticed my watch screaming at me - I was at about 140 and dropping. That was a bit of a 'don't freak out...be calm and get yourself under control and back to 120ish...' m
holy fucking shit
what is the depth at which you die in your weekend warrior gear? [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I've done deep water recreational dives before in standard gear - it was about 130 feet. Shit is so weird at that depth. Light comes through funny; a lot of color gets washed out because all the wavelengths won't make it that far to reflect off the surfaces. Obviously its pretty gray. And man, the lack of spatial orientation is trippy as hell. My last one was on a wreck that slanted into deeper waters and you could go in/out of staterooms along the side, but if you kept following the deck of that ship you'd just...die. And there's nothing to tell you that you're going deeper because you're just scooting along the deck of a ship that SEEMS flat and at about 300 ft long, it just looks like you have an entire ship in front of you still.
i got lost in the world for a little bit and noticed my watch screaming at me - I was at about 140 and dropping. That was a bit of a 'don't freak out...be calm and get yourself under control and back to 120ish...' moment.
I have never had even a little bit of interest in those super-deep dives. A) the training/preparation is crazy but B) I've just heard too many stories about guys having to watch their dive buddies just float to the bottom knowing that they're going to die but they can't do anything about it. There's some absolutely chilling shit you'll read about when that happens.
Reminds me of this video. This video explains what you're describing and how over 130 people have died diving this Blue Hole for the same reasons you just described. Dude mistakenly dived 265ft.
You can skip to the 9:15 mark if you want to see the dive cam footage of a man just before his death.
With the "safety systems" they have to release ballast to allow the tank to rise, it appears to me that the tank is being held or restricted from coming to the surface. It could be hung up on some junk on the Titanic, or stuck inside some part of it.
If this POS has done multiple dives, it is possible that the carbon fiber hull has undergone cyclic stresses due to the pressure flex/release too many times and weakened the hull?
Sounds like these gooney birds may not have thought to test that...
The submarine I was on did "test depth" dives a couple of times. Hearing that HY80 steel groan and bitch is unnerving. And we sure as fuck didn't go down any 12,000 feet. That would be some hellacious pressure excursion to put anything through. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I've done deep water recreational dives before in standard gear - it was about 130 feet. Shit is so weird at that depth. Light comes through funny; a lot of color gets washed out because all the wavelengths won't make it that far to reflect off the surfaces. Obviously its pretty gray. And man, the lack of spatial orientation is trippy as hell. My last one was on a wreck that slanted into deeper waters and you could go in/out of staterooms along the side, but if you kept following the deck of that ship you'd just...die. And there's nothing to tell you that you're going deeper because you're just scooting along the deck of a ship that SEEMS flat and at about 300 ft long, it just looks like you have an entire ship in front of you still.
i got lost in the world for a little bit and noticed my watch screaming at me - I was at about 140 and dropping. That was a bit of a 'don't freak out...be calm and get yourself under control and back to 120ish...' moment.
I have never had even a little bit of interest in those super-deep dives. A) the training/preparation is crazy but B) I've just heard too many stories about guys having to watch their dive buddies just float to the bottom knowing that they're going to die but they can't do anything about it. There's some absolutely chilling shit you'll read about when that happens.
I have absolutely 0 interest in doing any deep dives at all. That article (which is really well written) paints a horrifying picture. I'll probably watch the documentary released by the guy's friend, but I think what makes it even worse is that it's all recorded and you can see all the mistakes he made.
I can imagine you probably lose some sense of comprehension when you're down that deep and it's probably trippy as **** and you don't realize how serious the situation is.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I guess I understand why there's not a tether or anything, but for a ship that has so little ability to actually navigate itself, that just seems reckless.
Not having a tether makes sense, but not having an easy way to bring the submersible back up if something goes terribly wrong or a way to get out is just incredibly moronic. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Do you trust this companies " fail proof ballast"? I dont.
not necessarily but when you look at everything as a whole - lack of texts (they had a way to text message the surface) , 7 different redundant systems to float it back to the surface, the mechanical sand clock to release ballast after some hours...
I think it is more likely than not that the hull is destroyed rather than them just resting on the bottom , suffocating. Much more likely...
But the answer to your question is no, I wouldn't trust this dude to work on my actual camper let alone a submarine built with camper parts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I've done deep water recreational dives before in standard gear - it was about 130 feet. Shit is so weird at that depth. Light comes through funny; a lot of color gets washed out because all the wavelengths won't make it that far to reflect off the surfaces. Obviously its pretty gray. And man, the lack of spatial orientation is trippy as hell. My last one was on a wreck that slanted into deeper waters and you could go in/out of staterooms along the side, but if you kept following the deck of that ship you'd just...die. And there's nothing to tell you that you're going deeper because you're just scooting along the deck of a ship that SEEMS flat and at about 300 ft long, it just looks like you have an entire ship in front of you still.
i got lost in the world for a little bit and noticed my watch screaming at me - I was at about 140 and dropping. That was a bit of a 'don't freak out...be calm and get yourself under control and back to 120ish...' moment.
I have never had even a little bit of interest in those super-deep dives. A) the training/preparation is crazy but B) I've just heard too many stories about guys having to watch their dive buddies just float to the bottom knowing that they're going to die but they can't do anything about it. There's some absolutely chilling shit you'll read about when that happens.
I hit 120' in Cozumel one time and could have gone deep quite easily, if I hadn't been paying attention. The sandy bottom looked like it was another 10' below me, when it was probably another 100'. You just don't have that spatial recognition.
Even if you hit a 120' you can die if you don't do your ascent properly and get the bends. [Reply]
Mythbusters did a segment where they wrapped a human skeleton in pig flesh, sent it down 300 feet, then disconnected the dive suit. It wasn't instantaneous but sure enough everything got sucked into the helmet, pretty soon all you could see through the mask was blood. Pretty creepy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pawnmower:
not necessarily but when you look at everything as a whole - lack of texts (they had a way to text message the surface) , 7 different redundant systems to float it back to the surface, the mechanical sand clock to release ballast after some hours...
I think it is more likely than not that the hull is destroyed rather than them just resting on the bottom , suffocating. Much more likely...
But the answer to your question is no, I wouldn't trust this dude to work on my actual camper let alone a submarine built with camper parts.
I can't believe anyone got on that fucking thing, especially after the guy that did a story on IG got lost for a few hours. Add in the fact that this motherfucker had you bolted in from the outside and I'd be off that thing the second he said "time to get bolted in". That's just nightmare fuel.
I wonder if everything was going great and it just exploded or was it like an uh oh something's fucked up and everyone started to panic, then it blew up? There is also the possiblity that all those systems he had designed didn't actually work or they did and the GPS is fucked and they're cooking inside this metal pop can on top of the ocean. [Reply]