Last thread has well over 10,000 replies. Its body is breaking down like The Undertaker's. Seeing as we might have crossed the threshold into a new era in the business, here's a fresh new thread.
Originally Posted by Jerm:
It's typical Cena...he tries to bury anything that gets over and is hot.
He's the biggest asshole in the WWE and has been for quite some time. He's the new political Hogan.
I read a theory somewhere that maybe Cena's shitty comedy schtick was all part of the writing. This program is based upon Bray getting in his head and messing him all up. During this promo, he forced Cena to revert back to his old crappy joking ways because he knew he couldn't properly debate the mastermind. If you notice, Bray completely no-sold Cena's promo and just went on about his business instead of getting flustered.
It could also be that Cena just sucks on the mic and the writers are unoriginal hacks when it comes to writing Cena's stuff. [Reply]
I've never heard anything about Cena being political in the back, other than that he's a company guy who will do everything they ask him to do. I would agree that what he did last night was just as scripted as everything else he does. He's not a shooter. He's not going to just randomly bury anybody on his own. We're not in anything close to that kind of an era anymore. Everything that they all do is carefully scripted for them, and very, very few people have the freedom to even go off script at all, much less walk out there with a mic and no direction in the middle of a feud with a rising talent.
People who get buried these days are being buried by the office, not the workers.
(And in no way are the wyatts being buried right now) [Reply]
Small sidetrack: How many of you have been buried in some way in the past? Describe the circumstances behind your burial, whether at work, in your personal life, or in some other capacity. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Small sidetrack: How many of you have been buried in some way in the past? Describe the circumstances behind your burial, whether at work, in your personal life, or in some other capacity.
I don't think anybody's ever buried me but me. I am a master at self-burial, as most of you who've been here a decade or more will know. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Small sidetrack: How many of you have been buried in some way in the past? Describe the circumstances behind your burial, whether at work, in your personal life, or in some other capacity.
Originally Posted by Reaper16:
The roster is not weak. Batista is weak, yes, but he was only brought back because of his role in Guardians of the Galaxy (the company hopes a "movie star" will help in their upcoming contract negotiations with NBC/Universal).
I'm with you in that I'm not crazy about the WWE house style regarding faces & heels. Seems like they want heels to be cowards and faces to be unbeatable. For the most part. HHH is making some of that go away. HHH is making better a lot of what Vince had hard-ons for.
The real problem with the face/heel dynamic in WWE is that faces don't often have fully formed characters. People cheer the heels because they are their own people. You know who they are and what they stand for. WWE faces over the last five years have intentionally been made nondescript: a more-or-less blank canvas to appeal VERY broadly. Therefore, Cena is vaguely urban Superman. Sheamus is Irish-fighter-guy. Rey Mysterio/Kofi Kingston = jump dudes. Even CM Punk, in WWE babyface style, is Mr. Rebel and nothing more; whereas his heel characters have been true, round characters.
TL;DR? WWE's idea that faces need to be flat characters to appeal to the broadest possible demographics is what's causing heels to get cheered so much.
Cena single handedly ruined Wade Barrett's career and all of Nexus when he buried them. Bray Wyatt was even in Nexus and he had to go hide for 3 years after that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
Cena single handedly ruined Wade Barrett's career and all of Nexus when he buried them. Bray Wyatt was even in Nexus and he had to go hide for 3 years after that.
Yep. Jericho and Edge talk about it on Jericho's podcast. [Reply]
He also ruined Damian Sandow last year when he tried to cash in the MITB and Cena beat him with ONE arm. Sandow has been on like a 1-49 losing streak since. Only win against Sin Cara lol. With his gimmick even being tweaked/repackaged. Talk about a bury. [Reply]
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
Cena single handedly ruined Wade Barrett's career and all of Nexus when he buried them. Bray Wyatt was even in Nexus and he had to go hide for 3 years after that.
Wade Barrett single handedly buried Wade Barrett....and continues to do it. As a showperson and wrestler, he pretty much is worthless.
Not sure why WWE keeps him around. He is boring.... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mosbonian:
Wade Barrett single handedly buried Wade Barrett....and continues to do it. As a showperson and wrestler, he pretty much is worthless.
Not sure why WWE keeps him around. He is boring....
Barrett is one of like 6 guys on the whole roster that has mic skills and some sort of in ring skills. There aren't many guys that can talk and wrestle in the WWE. It's either one or the other.
Who can currently cut a promo in the WWE? Without a manager.
Barrett
Sandow
Triple H
The Shield
Bray Wyatt
Can you think of anyone else that is good on the microphone? The two top faces Cena and Bryan can't cut a ****ing good promo to save their lives. Never could, never will. They are over but they can't talk themselves out of a paper bag. That is exactly why Reaper had the post earlier saying the Faces are stale with no character. it's because they can't ****ing talk. [Reply]
