Chiefs are trading six-time Pro-Bowl WR Tyreek Hill to the Miami Dolphins for five draft picks: a 2022 1st-round pick (No. 29), a 2nd-round pick (No. 50) and a 4th-round pick, as well as 4th- and 6th-round picks in the 2023 draft, sources tell ESPN.
Tyreek was screwed out of getting his legit market value in his previous contract extension in 2019 because that took place during the child abuse smear campaign… I don’t blame him for trying to make up for that now and get every possible $$$. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I can’t tell if he’s trying to replace Reid’s name with Dorsey or if he’s saying to add Dorsey to that list. Either way I don’t really give a shit.
This. I don't understand how that's a dis on the Chiefs or whatever...
...but mostly, I don't give a shit either... [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
The train I am on is great/Tyreek-caliber playmakers gives any QB and team a better chance to have success… seems pretty obvious.
Veach needs to go draft an instant WR1.
You’re missing the overall.
People act like Hill’s talent is in a vacuum. It isn’t. His contract, age, and other needs factor in.
Yes, this team is substantially better by replacing Hill with a lesser talent provided they upgrade at RT, DE, CB, and add depth. Why is this hard for people to accept?
We won’t be replacing Hill’s talent, but we can absolutely field a better team with the resources this trade nets us. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Tyreek was screwed out of getting his legit market value in his previous contract extension in 2019 because that took place during the child abuse smear campaign… I don’t blame him for trying to make up for that now and get every possible $$$.
We don't know for sure what happened there. The prosecutor said he believed a crime had taken place but did not know who to charge.
Once again, he would of been rich with either contract. He just wanted the maximum possible contract ($$$) even though, more than likely, he probably won't even be able to spend it all if he wanted to. That's called greed and not giving a shit about the Chiefs. [Reply]
Tyreek Hill, laughing when asked how tough it was to leave Kansas City: "It's tough but when someone comes to you with a lot of money, feelings change a bit."
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
We don't know for sure what happened there. The prosecutor said he believed a crime had taken place but did not know who to charge.
Once again, he would of been rich with either contract. He just wanted the maximum possible contract ($$$) even though he probably won't even be able to spend it if he wanted to more than likely. That's called greed and not giving a shit about the Chiefs.
Also puts a big dent in his HOF chances, which also doesn't matter to him apparently. [Reply]
My understanding is the #Jets and #Chiefs reached an agreement on Monday. NYJ then went to work on a contract with Hill. The #Dolphins stepped up at some point and then it was only a matter of time before it would be Miami. https://t.co/eaFN49K7Q9
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
You’re missing the overall.
People act like Hill’s talent is in a vacuum. It isn’t. His contract, age, and other needs factor in.
Yes, this team is substantially better by replacing Hill with a lesser talent provided they upgrade at RT, DE, CB, and add depth. Why is this hard for people to accept?
We won’t be replacing Hill’s talent, but we can absolutely field a better team with the resources this trade nets us.
The Chiefs can absolutely make their overall WR group better than it was last year with this trade… but the key to that is drafting an immediate WR1.
The Chiefs are not and should not invest significant resources in RT or CB… so the idea they are going to sacrifice the WR position to vastly improve those positions is not happening.
Also the Chiefs were already in a good position to upgrade at DE in the draft before the Tyreek trade… it’s a deep draft at the DE/edge rusher position. [Reply]
I love Reek and in an ideal world wish he was still here, but he forced our hand and we had to do something. The Chiefs decided it would be more beneficial to the team long term to not make Hill the highest paid WR in the league, to use his cap space for other assets, and to use the draft capital to continue rebuilding the next incarnation of this team around Mahomes.
But this situation basically comes down to 2 viewpoints:
1. Either you believe in Mahomes as an elite playmaker, the best young QB in the league, etc. and if that be the case, ultimately, we will be fine with him and what we surround him with.
OR
2. You are of the opinion (that many outside of KC share) that Mahomes is a talented, but mediocre QB who is simply a product of the system he's in and the weapons placed around him and can't succeed at a high level without the Reek's and Kelce's of the world, etc.
So ask yourself which side are you on?
Either you believe in Mahomes or you don't. It's really that simple. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
I love Reek and in an ideal world wish he was still here, but he forced our hand and we had to do something. The Chiefs decided it would be more beneficial to the team long term to not make Hill the highest paid WR in the league, to use his cap space for other assets, and to use the draft capital to continue rebuilding the next incarnation of this team around Mahomes.
But this situation basically comes down to 2 viewpoints:
1. Either you believe in Mahomes as an elite playmaker, the best young QB in the league, etc. and if that be the case, ultimately, we will be fine with him and what we surround him with.
OR - Mahomes is an elite talent, but even elite talent needs the team to run the fucking ball when the opposition commits all out to cover receivers, but running the ball has disappeared from our scheme.
OR - Mahomes is an elite talent, but no elite talent can thrive when weapons don't know their assignments. So we need to make sure the weapons get to where elite talent Mahomes expects them to be, which isn't a given.
OR
2. You are of the opinion (that many outside of KC share) that Mahomes is a talented, but mediocre QB who is simply a product of the system he's in and the weapons placed around him and can't succeed at a high level without the Reek's and Kelce's of the world, etc.
So ask yourself which side are you on?
Either you believe in Mahomes or you don't. It's really that simple.
Those aren't the only two options. Go rewatch the SB against the Bucs for a worst case that is NEITHER of those things.
Mahomes making otherworldly plays that only failed because, no matter how catchable a pass is, the receiver still has to catch it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
The Chiefs can absolutely make their overall WR group better than it was last year with this trade… but the key to that is drafting an immediate WR1.
The Chiefs are not and should not invest significant resources in RT or CB… so the idea they are going to sacrifice the WR position to vastly improve those positions is not happening.
Also the Chiefs were already in a good position to upgrade at DE in the draft before the Tyreek trade… it’s a deep draft at the DE/edge rusher position.
No, this is hyperbole again.
immediate WR #1? No. You need a kid that'll be your #1 sooner than later; but not immediately. He should be able to contribute in 2022. If we're SOLID across the board there, that'll be fine.
RT? I'm not opposed to spending a mid-rounder or a bargain FA there. Why not finish your stud line?
CB I agree. So does Veach. We don't spend premium assets for that position anymore. [Reply]
