Yes, because both of those guys easily exceeded their draft position you buttfucking moron.

"I'd take Tom Brady over Caleb Williams. And he was drafted in the 6th round!"

You'd have a point if you had some receipts on Rice and Reed last year, but you're 100% operating in hindsight.

I'd take Rice over those guys too, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have these guys with higher grades than I did Rice. That's how discussing the draft actually fucking works.

My reading comprehension is fine, you're just too fucking stupid to argue with.

It's astonishing really.
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Irrelevant to the point made.

We know their value now. I would prefer either over the prospects you named.

Actual NFL teams look at prospects not just against each other but compared to prior and future classes.
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I don't think Worthy compares to Moore well at all. And not really to Toney (who wasn't a raw speed player like Worthy and Hardman).

Worthy definitely is a fair comparison to Hardman. And I would say he fares favorably to Mecole. Size/speed is pretty similar (5-9/170 vs. 5-9/180) and they're both 4.3 flat type runners.

But Worthy seems to me to have much better ability to change direction without losing speed (IE, can he run WASP) and was obviously drastically more productive and developed as a receiver.
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Worthy lists himself at 170. Let's see what he actually weighs in at.

He looks incredibly thin and breakable.
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And look at pictures from the combine and see if maybe he pulled a Zay Flowers and put on bulk for the weigh-ins before cutting it for the season...
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Why would this man say this? :-)

Adona Mitchell says he has separated himself from other WRs by “just being me.” Also said he never runs routes full speed, which allows him to run routes for the entire drive. #NFLCombine2024 pic.twitter.com/2NtHguXoZQ

— Ryan McDowell (@RyanMc23) March 1, 2024

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Sounds like an Alpha.



Like how Mahomes says he would have ran a faster 40 if a DL was chasing him.
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This whole "alpha" schtick has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site.
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One of the premier NFL scouting front offices has identified a WR.

The Ravens and Adonai Mitchell met at the combine… pic.twitter.com/JJzGHq2KvY

— RAMEY (@HoodieRamey) March 1, 2024

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No thanks on Mitchell
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Mahomes won't get to be a game manager like Alex Smith if we give him real NFL WR talent.
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When asked which QB he'd love to run some routes for in training camp..Ladd Mcconkey said one name...PATRICK MAHOMES. He was waxing lyrical about Pat.

I'm digging into his tape tbh because he might be a real option for us.
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I think I'm kinda settled on a few things now. I honestly don't like Worthy. My issue with him is I don't see the lateral agility some have mentioned, I think he's a pretty average route runner, and his lack of strength does show up at times. He's a poor man's Franklin imo, if we want a field stretcher I'd try and move up for him because I think he's a good deal better than Worthy. All that said, I absolutely think Worthy's speed is legit and most teams will find a way to use it so that he can have some success.

Mitchell is an interesting one. I think his ceiling is much higher than Worthy's but of those 2 and Franklin he has the biggest bust potential, just because of the athletic profile. Imo he's a significantly better route runner than Worthy. If his 40 is decent I'd say I'd have him a fair bit higher.

My preference is we find a way to get Franklin. I wouldn't take Worthy at 32. I might roll the dice and take Mitchell.
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I saw Brock Bowers said the same thing
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The only thing that's irrelevant is where Rice and Reed went in the draft last year. They're both great young WRs that have already shown it. Of course anybody would take the proven commodity over what will/should be available at 32.

It's amazing how difficult logic is for you.
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