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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The George Karlaftis Thread*****
Dante84 09:16 PM 04-28-2022
More to come!









What are the #Chiefs getting in George Karlaftis?

Had an NFC Personnel executive tell me “He reminds me of J.J. Watt, when Watt was coming out. An explosive and versatile playmaker who has a high motor and can line up at 3,5, or 7. Very strong kid” #NFL #NFLDraft pic.twitter.com/5qM3g6OrMr

— Matt Lombardo (@MattLombardoNFL) April 29, 2022


George Karlaftis was drafted with pick 30 of round 1 in the 2022 draft class. He scored a 9.23 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 116 out of 1503 DE from 1987 to 2022. https://t.co/iXXBvnoFJc #RAS #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/eZ9XjNRDUB

— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 29, 2022


“I was sitting there the whole night hoping we’d be able to get you.”

Karlaftis gets the call �� pic.twitter.com/DRGBDekvnl

— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) April 29, 2022

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Pitt Gorilla 11:58 AM 11-03-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
We'll see.

He played a ton in that Tampa game and was playing a fair amount before he got hurt vs. the Raiders. And it was not a bad idea to slow-roll ANOTHER rookie into the defensive backfield where we could.

I suspect we'll see 3-safety looks about 40% of the time as a general rule going forward.

But I do agree that we had FAR greater priorities and that was my greatest frustration with the Cook pick at the time. Deon Bush is a solid player. He's probably better than Cook right now anyway. And I don't see Cook as a guy who can replace Thornhill going forward because he's not a single-high guy.

It just seemed like we created a need that didn't really exist. At least not yet. Then again, with Sneed/Fenton/McDuffie as your 1-3 coming out of the first round, and Fenton's injury history (not to mention McDuffie being a rookie), maybe they just weren't confident that a standard Nickel was a strong package. There's no way they expected Watson to be this significant a contributor and probably not even Williams.

But yeah, I definitely would not have gone with Cook there. The need on the DL was just too great and too obvious.
You don't get to where we are without a significant amount of BPA philosophy as well. I'm guessing that played into it as well as potentially losing Thornhill .
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Pitt Gorilla 11:59 AM 11-03-2022
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
That's the thing, I realize this isn't a top 15 defense but.. a starting rookie DE, rookie LB getting significant snaps, 2 rookie corners starting plus one coming back from IR and a rookie safety getting a good bit of run. It's really kind of impressive that they aren't worse than they have been.
The rookies have been really good and they're going to get better. Props to Spags et al.
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BossChief 12:06 PM 11-03-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
either nnadi is playing hurt or mailing it in because they haven't tried to resign him

which would be odd for a guy in a contract year
His contract year was last year and Reed was brought in to replace him. Veach brought him back on a one year prove it deal and he’s proving he doesn’t belong in the NFL.

I fully expect Denver to sign him this offseason.

It’s probably safe to say Nnadi is done and that we will bring up Shelton soon snd quite possibly perSUH a DT as a next man up.

Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Film study on our boy George. Turns out he's been more effective than we've been giving him credit for:

I agree with some of his assessments, but others seem to indicate he’s not looking at it for a true assessment.

For instance, the stretch zone against Indy. He’s trying to show the play as an example of good run defense, when George’s responsibility on outside runs is to contain the run from getting outside. George immediately takes a step inside on the play and takes on Nelson…we were just lucky that the back didn’t get outside because he had 2 blocks set up out there with only Sneed to defend the outside.

Obviously I don’t know the playcall, but if I was going to have a critique of George’s game this far, it’s that he kinda sucks out loud at contain and the teams run defense suffers because of it. He can’t keep letting OTs go past him and needs to do a better job of getting outside snd forcing the play inside a lot more so the linebackers and DTs can clean up.
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Hammock Parties 07:42 PM 11-07-2022
GREEK FIRE

... sometimes I fully understand it. pic.twitter.com/ACmjPe5RvD

— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) November 8, 2022

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BossChief 08:03 PM 11-07-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
GREEK FIRE

While his display of strength in this clip is outstanding, he needs to do a better job of not letting the play get outside of him. He’s improving in that area, but instead of pushing that TE outside, and instead pushes him upfield, it disrupts the run and allows a good angle to the swab if it’s PA.
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RunKC 04:21 PM 11-08-2022
4 pressures against Tennessee. He flashed a lot.

Good rush here.

Karlaftis always gets the pressure but never the sack pic.twitter.com/QdBz1s1H5I

— ���������� (@LockdownSneed) November 8, 2022


Effort play. Nice rebound from miscalculating.

Quick recognition by Karlaftis to stop the RB pic.twitter.com/Tw0tjSPGU8

— Billy M (@BillyM_91) November 7, 2022


He would have gotten a lot of credit here if Chris fucking Jones doesn’t line up in the goddamn neutral zone. He ruined this play.

Karlaftis saving a TD (offsides gives a first down tho) with the swipe and pressure pic.twitter.com/5NCze2De4z

— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) November 7, 2022


Oh and as Clay’s gif showed…don’t put a TE on him or George will destroy him

... sometimes I fully understand it. pic.twitter.com/ACmjPe5RvD

— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) November 8, 2022

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staylor26 04:24 PM 11-08-2022
Probably his best game yet.
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RunKC 04:43 PM 11-08-2022
He got pressure on 25% of Willis’ throws :-)

He’s been so close to sacking QB’s. Dude had his hands on Willis on the 2nd to last play of the game. So close
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JPH83 04:45 PM 11-08-2022
Originally Posted by BossChief:
His contract year was last year and Reed was brought in to replace him. Veach brought him back on a one year prove it deal and he’s proving he doesn’t belong in the NFL.

I fully expect Denver to sign him this offseason.

It’s probably safe to say Nnadi is done and that we will bring up Shelton soon snd quite possibly perSUH a DT as a next man up.


I agree with some of his assessments, but others seem to indicate he’s not looking at it for a true assessment.

For instance, the stretch zone against Indy. He’s trying to show the play as an example of good run defense, when George’s responsibility on outside runs is to contain the run from getting outside. George immediately takes a step inside on the play and takes on Nelson…we were just lucky that the back didn’t get outside because he had 2 blocks set up out there with only Sneed to defend the outside.

Obviously I don’t know the playcall, but if I was going to have a critique of George’s game this far, it’s that he kinda sucks out loud at contain and the teams run defense suffers because of it. He can’t keep letting OTs go past him and needs to do a better job of getting outside snd forcing the play inside a lot more so the linebackers and DTs can clean up.
Strongly agree on the last point re the run. That's the area I really want and expect to see some improvement by the season's end.
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DJ's left nut 04:50 PM 11-08-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
GREEK FIRE

He tossed a TE...he's kinda supposed to do that, no?
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BWillie 05:34 PM 11-08-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He got pressure on 25% of Willis’ throws :-)

He’s been so close to sacking QB’s. Dude had his hands on Willis on the 2nd to last play of the game. So close
Must be something wrong with his hands and arms then since he never actually gets sacks. Did the same thing in college.
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Megatron96 06:19 PM 11-08-2022
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Must be something wrong with his hands and arms then since he never actually gets sacks. Did the same thing in college.
Nah. Mostly he's about a half step slow getting to the QB from what I've seen. In short, he's still learning how to play at NFL speed. He's still thinking instead of just playing, so he's a beat slow yet. He'll be quicker as the season goes on and even more so next season. But even being a step slow, he's racking up a lot of QB pressures and hits, not to mention his solid play vs. the run so far.
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Halfcan 07:46 PM 11-08-2022
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Must be something wrong with his hands and arms then since he never actually gets sacks. Did the same thing in college.
Or maybe he is forcing the QB to throw early-like he did in San Fran, which caused an INT.
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RunKC 08:21 PM 11-08-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
We'll see.

He played a ton in that Tampa game and was playing a fair amount before he got hurt vs. the Raiders. And it was not a bad idea to slow-roll ANOTHER rookie into the defensive backfield where we could.

I suspect we'll see 3-safety looks about 40% of the time as a general rule going forward.

But I do agree that we had FAR greater priorities and that was my greatest frustration with the Cook pick at the time. Deon Bush is a solid player. He's probably better than Cook right now anyway. And I don't see Cook as a guy who can replace Thornhill going forward because he's not a single-high guy.

It just seemed like we created a need that didn't really exist. At least not yet. Then again, with Sneed/Fenton/McDuffie as your 1-3 coming out of the first round, and Fenton's injury history (not to mention McDuffie being a rookie), maybe they just weren't confident that a standard Nickel was a strong package. There's no way they expected Watson to be this significant a contributor and probably not even Williams.

But yeah, I definitely would not have gone with Cook there. The need on the DL was just too great and too obvious.
As someone who wasn’t thrilled with the Bryan Cook pick, I see why they drafted him. It wasn’t just to replace Daniel Sorenson but also to replace some of Juan Thornhill’s role. And I think he can. The guy was a corner for years before he became a safety. He also played a lot of roles in college. He’s probably a TE matchup but he did play in the slot in college too.

Juan is a pretty solid pass defender but he is so bad vs the run. He gets scared and can’t make the tackles needed.

Still need help up front but again Spags wanted the secondary shored up first.
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Pitt Gorilla 08:52 PM 11-08-2022
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Nah. Mostly he's about a half step slow getting to the QB from what I've seen. In short, he's still learning how to play at NFL speed. He's still thinking instead of just playing, so he's a beat slow yet. He'll be quicker as the season goes on and even more so next season. But even being a step slow, he's racking up a lot of QB pressures and hits, not to mention his solid play vs. the run so far.
His get-off has been pretty damn amazing. Eventually, that's going to pay off.
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