They haven't been able to find even that baseline of play in the draft for a little while. Niang, Morris, and Suamataia are all not it to this point in their careers, and if the talking heads locally are to be believed they're already gearing towards Suamataia shifting inside. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I'm in agreement with you guys. I've said for a couple weeks no matter who LT is, Andy needs to evolve with the times. Tackle play sucks compared to the days when he first built his offenses.
But I'm not going to hold my breath.
He’s too stubborn and that’s what separates him and Belichick.
When Bill dominated teams with a 3-4 defense, teams tried copying it. Bill saw this and pivoted to a 4-3. Teams were drafting all of the 3-4 DL early which meant the traditional 4-3 DE’s would fall to him. Same in FA. That’s what made him outsmart everybody.
Andy has got to put his pride away and take advantage. Perfect example is the Broncos. They had the best pass rushing unit in football leading the league in sacks and pressures. Their one flaw was undersized DL. Bonitto and Cooper were 250 lbs and Zack Allen/John-Franklin Myers were 280 lbs.
The Bills recognized that huge disparity in size and just bullied the fuck out of them running the ball down their throat and moving their smaller DL at will at will all day.
We are too one dimensional. That’s a major part of our asswhooping. These teams do not respect our run game at all. They know Andy doesn’t want to do it and they know we aren’t good at it, so they pin their ears back and rush the same as if they have a lead.
Andy watching our QB and OL struggle badly immediately and not even bothering to run the ball until the 12th offensive play of the game is full proof of this.
Not saying we should convert to a run first offense by any means, but we need to be 2 dimensional. We need to be able to run the ball well when needed which will open up play action.
We also need to help our QB. We can’t keep putting everything on him with little help. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FloridaMan88:
He’s very raw, and would not be able to start practicing until training camp due to his injury recovery.
Yes, you’d definitely need a veteran tackle for year 1 but I really want a long term LT that can protect Mahomes for the rest of his career. Pat needs to trust his oline. He plays so much better when he’s not anxious and having continuity at LT is critical. I feel like we are lucky to have a chance at Simmons around 20. Moving up to that position won’t cost us too much. Can you imagine Mahomes with a great LT for the next decade? [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I don't think people understand the argument.
Of course Andy can get good results with Jackson. He did it with OBJ with much less to work with in terms of weapons. That's not the point. The question is whether it's worth the money, because even though McVay and company can make it work with Jackson, they aren't rushing to pay up for him either.
If we have to change the offense and constantly give him help, is it worth paying starting LT money?
Even if he's good enough to get us back to being a top 5 offense, the same people screaming to pay Jackson will be furious if he's a disappointment in terms of what we pay if keeps us from being the best offense in the NFL.
Hell we were the best offense in 2022 and people were still pissy with OBJ’s performance [Reply]
