The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC.
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy:
I'm glad Spags is getting rid of just about all defensive assistants. We haven't really developed a ton of talent on the defensive side and I think the mistakes these players repeatedly make can be attributed some to the coaching.
I'm ready for fresh new ideas on that side.
Damn straight. Let the man implement HIS plan.( and hope that Britt Reid says "yes 'sir" more than "no 'sir"! :-) ) [Reply]
lol you don’t let the guy who led the NFL in pressures and is still in his 20’s just walk. Tag and play, or tag and trade. No long term deal, and no letting him go for nothing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chargem:
I think people who found the Speaks pick totally baffling are stuck in hindsight. The Chiefs went into the draft having dealt with an injured Ford, an injured Houston and giving Frank Fucking Zombo snaps in critical games. Another pass rusher in the 2nd round was totally fine.
It was also sort of fine that he was a project, the Chiefs didn't expect Mahomes to blow the top off the league. They thought this was a learning year and they could do a 2 year rebuild of the defense, so a project was fine.
I really don't agree with the trade up though. The Chiefs could have found value in multiple areas, so I have no idea why they didn't just wait it out and improve the defense elsewhere if Speaks went before their pick.
The crazy one for me was Maurice Hurst. Why do you not take him in the 4th? He was a high first rounder with a question mark due to a heart issue, that's 100% worth a punt with your 4th rounder just in case you get a 1st round talent out of it.
Speaks isn't a pass rusher though. In college, he was largely a run-stuffing 4-3 DE that slid inside. To my knowledge, he had never really rushed the passer without his hand in the dirt before he joined the Chiefs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RustShack:
lol you don’t let the guy who led the NFL in pressures and is still in his 20’s just walk. Tag and play, or tag and trade. No long term deal, and no letting him go for nothing.
Literally nobody is suggesting they should just let him hit free agency and do nothing.
Nearly everybody thinks they should tag him. [Reply]
Everything I keep hearing from people who actually talk to people associated with the Chiefs basically imply that Tanoh and Speaks playing 3-4 OLB was dumb as fuck. No wonder these guys haven’t looked good. They aren’t built to be in fucking coverage, ever.
I think these guys have potential in a 4-3 as DE’s.
And for the “Speaks is too slow!” crowd...Michael Bennett and Derek Barnett ran slower times than him. Let’s see what he can do in a position to succeed instead of being set up to fail. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Everything I keep hearing from people who actually talk to people associated with the Chiefs basically imply that Tanoh and Speaks playing 3-4 OLB was dumb as fuck. No wonder these guys haven’t looked good. They aren’t built to be in fucking coverage, ever.
I think these guys have potential in a 4-3 as DE’s.
And for the “Speaks is too slow!” crowd...Michael Bennett and Derek Barnett ran slower times than him. Let’s see what he can do in a position to succeed instead of being set up to fail.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Everything I keep hearing from people who actually talk to people associated with the Chiefs basically imply that Tanoh and Speaks playing 3-4 OLB was dumb as fuck. No wonder these guys haven’t looked good. They aren’t built to be in fucking coverage, ever.
I think these guys have potential in a 4-3 as DE’s.
And for the “Speaks is too slow!” crowd...Michael Bennett and Derek Barnett ran slower times than him. Let’s see what he can do in a position to succeed instead of being set up to fail.
Speaks is going from a position that makes no sense to one that is perfect for him (SDE in a 4-3 Under)
If he surprised us at OLB at times, I fully expect him to surprise those that doubt him at his new position. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Damn straight. Let the man implement HIS plan.( and hope that Britt Reid says "yes 'sir" more than "no 'sir"! :-) )
Originally Posted by RustShack:
lol you don’t let the guy who led the NFL in pressures and is still in his 20’s just walk. Tag and play, or tag and trade. No long term deal, and no letting him go for nothing.
He stinks as an LB and now we are going to the 4-3. Can't cover nor help stup the run. Cut him and let other dumbasses give him pile of money to fuck up. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
He stinks as an LB and now we are going to the 4-3. Can't cover nor help stup the run. Cut him and let other dumbasses give him pile of money to fuck up.
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
Damn right. This mental idiot lost the fucking AFCCG! No way in hell his sorry ass should come back. Give him 15 Mil of our cap? Fuck no.
Well forgetting all the tag talk, he's a free agent. You can't cut him. LOL [Reply]
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
He stinks as an LB and now we are going to the 4-3. Can't cover nor help stup the run. Cut him and let other dumbasses give him pile of money to **** up.
He put up a lot of sacks, but I'm not 100% convinced you pay him the franchise tag. I think long-term we need to move away from overpaying these broke dicks on D, and they all seem to break down more with age. You guys think Belichick would pay him the franchise number? I kinda doubt it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
Damn right. This mental idiot lost the fucking AFCCG! No way in hell his sorry ass should come back. Give him 15 Mil of our cap? Fuck no.
