Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jerm:
Both Mangini and Carter totally come off as butthurt buffoons...esp. Mangini, what the hell is he babbling about?
I have no problem with them saying let’s wait to see how it plays out. I do have a problem with Carter dismissing Mahomes’ arm talent. He has barely even seen the guy play. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
That was his argument.
We are getting rid of Alex Smith, who is a winner for a kid from Texas Tech who never beat a good team. Mahomes would never have a career as good as Alex Smith.
My how times have changed.
This is why he doesn't deserve a seat on the bandwagon. He's a fucking idiot.
Sorry bitch. Maybe we can chain you to the bottom side of the bus, but there aint any seats here for you. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
I have no problem with them saying let’s wait to see how it plays out. I do have a problem with Carter dismissing Mahomes’ arm talent. He has barely even seen the guy play.
Mangini just comes off as such a whiny douche though. [Reply]
He'll do what Brady does - he'll find the blitz and he'll throw at it. With as many dangerous weapons as we can put in the pattern, you can't blitz AND play man; the math doesn't add up. So all you can do is blitz and throw a zone at him.
Well if you're blitzing, you're opening a hole in the zone where the blitzer is coming from. Smith would run away from the blitz and try to buy time for one of his receivers to find a hole and sit in the zone. Mahomes does the opposite - he stands there, looks right through the blitzing player and throws into the opening. He did it 3-4 times against Pittsburgh. He's just not the slightest bit afraid of those blitzes.
The only way to make a blitz work against him is to disguise the hell out of it but even that is difficult with as much motion as the Chiefs use. How can you keep a blitz disguised when you have 2-3 guys changing where they are in the formation? Or you just selectively deploy them and hope you catch him napping.
Which is where I get back to the death by 1,000 papercuts approach. I'd play a shitload of 2 deep man and try to lull him to sleep - then send a safety or something off the edge and try to catch him off guard.
Mostly, if I'm a defensive coordinator, I have an ulcer for a week and hope I get to face Gruden's "1995" offense the following game.
Repeatedly hit him when he's throwing and hope his weapons drop balls. That's the only way I see it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
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The Jags game is going to be fascinating. They have so many athletes on defense that they can play a 2 deep man and make it work. They also have the kind of DL to still get to the passer.
I was going to post this same thing...
Really, you have to have 2 great man CBs and a good 3rd one, a safety that can cover Kelce, fast LBers and a dominate d-line that can be disruptive without blitzing.
That's not taking into account a gameplan....that can out-punk Reid.
You are talking about one or two defenses in the NFL with that personnel...Vikings and Jacksonville?...maybe the Eagles? [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Pest:
Repeatedly hit him when he's throwing and hope his weapons drop balls. That's the only way I see it.
That pressure right up the middle made him misfire on the first drive (IIRC). He had Kelce open in the middle for an easy 6 and he got hit as he threw and put it a foot or so wide of where Kelce could get to.
Get a few of those a game and one of them probably turns into a pick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
That pressure right up the middle made him misfire on the first drive (IIRC). He had Kelce open in the middle for an easy 6 and he got hit as he threw and put it a foot or so wide of where Kelce could get to.
Get a few of those a game and one of them probably turns into a pick.
That's why it's gotta be pressure to beat these top guys. You can't continually drop guys and let them sit back there. They'll own you.
Unless you just catch them with a day off, which we did against big Ben a few years back at Arrowhead in January, but fucked it up real nice. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Jerm:
Mangini just comes off as such a whiny douche though.
That's basically what he is....these NFL guys hate being shown their wrong. Matter of fact he probably can't stand that offensive system the Chiefs are running. [Reply]
