Originally Posted by kccrow:
He's built a lot like Kelvin Beachum. A bit squatty but has longer arms and is just a good player. Actually, he has slightly longer arms and is a bit heavier. Most everyone at the Senior Bowl said he's staying at RT in the NFL. I can see it. I don't think he'll move to LT but who knows. Beachum played 7 of his 13 seasons at LT.
And honestly that another option IF Veach really likes Membou as a 10+ year starting RT. You trade up and draft him and throw Taylor over at LT while Kingsley plays swing until he either replaces Taylor at LT or doesn't develop and Veach looks elsewhere for our stud LT and keeps Kingsley as our swing guy.
And before you say Taylor is a RT man! We fucking had a guard and other broke dicks playing LT this year and Taylor can't be any worse for 2025. Hell maybe moving as a left tackle will help him not false start all the fucking time. [Reply]
If the team does end up going with an older veteran on a short term contract they may well need 2 OT prospects very soon depending on how they see Kingsley going forward. Jawaan Taylor has 2 years left with a 7 million dead cap hit if cut after 2025, so that's 2 more years of him max. [Reply]
They have no floor at LT. Wanya is most likely a RT that could be a short term LT for a few games if needed but that’s it. Kingsley is still developing, assuming he stays at LT and not RG and yeah most of these tackles being talked about as possible G’s in the draft is concerning.
Say what you want but at least there is a floor with Cam Robinson and it turns out he’s playable and won’t be a guy who outright loses games bc he’s getting raped over and over again like what we’ve seen from the 3 guys who started games at LT last year.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
They have no floor at LT. Wanya is most likely a RT that could be a short term LT for a few games if needed but that’s it. Kingsley is still developing, assuming he stays at LT and not RG and yeah most of these tackles being talked about as possible G’s in the draft is concerning.
Say what you want but at least there is a floor with Cam Robinson and it turns out he’s playable and won’t be a guy who outright loses games bc he’s getting raped over and over again like what we’ve seen from the 3 guys who started games at LT last year.
Not much choice here fellas
Spot on, and this whole obsession with having to overpay is so odd to me. The Chiefs can always create cap room. It’s a complete non-issue. If you’d rather watch Mahomes get his ass planted more than he’s hitting deep bombs to Worthy and Hollywood so that we can maintain cap flexibility for 3-4 years from now, I don’t really know how to comprehend your frame of mind. [Reply]
I'm not sure there's a huge difference between a Cam Robinson, Eric Fisher, OBJr.
Those are all guys who are proven capable starting left tackles and have played the position on really good performing offenses. They're all guys with weaknesses capable of getting them whooped by certain types of rushers.
But more often than not, they're gonna let your offense function like you need it to. I don't get all the hand wringing at Robinson in that sense. You aren't getting a Trent Williams. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
So we're gonna pay Robinson a good chunk of change, have a high paid LG/C/RT and a 2nd round pick at RG.
Then we've got a 1st round WR/2nd round WR and will probably pay another one this year.
Seems the "no resources on offense" talking points are kinda bunk....
Yeah and?
I think we all kinda unanimously agree that LT and only LT was the significant problem this year. Fixing that alone is going to change the entire picture. It's proven to be Mahomes' kryptonite, the blindside pressure that he couldn't see coming definitely gets in his head. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I'm not sure there's a huge difference between a Cam Robinson, Eric Fisher, OBJr.
Those are all guys who are proven capable starting left tackles and have played the position on really good performing offenses. They're all guys with weaknesses capable of getting them whooped by certain types of rushers.
But more often than not, they're gonna let your offense function like you need it to. I don't get all the hand wringing at Robinson in that sense. You aren't getting a Trent Williams.
Robinson is Jawaan Taylor all over again. He's going to do what he does, get paid a ton for it, and people are going to bitch and moan endlessly about it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Robinson is Jawaan Taylor all over again. He's going to do what he does, get paid a ton for it, and people are going to bitch and moan endlessly about it.
If he is Jawaan Taylor I’d take that every day of the fucking week. A Jawaan Taylor type talent would be an enormous upgrade over Wanya and Kingsley getting Mahomes killed and ruining games.
Jawaan is a solid level starter. Anyone who bitches at that after what we’ve seen are completely unrealistic. [Reply]
I think we all kinda unanimously agree that LT and only LT was the significant problem this year. Fixing that alone is going to change the entire picture. It's proven to be Mahomes' kryptonite, the blindside pressure that he couldn't see coming definitely gets in his head.
Couple years ago it was the interior pressure, fixed that. Guess now it's the outside, hopefully we can fix that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
If he is Jawaan Taylor I’d take that every day of the fucking week. A Jawaan Taylor type talent would be an enormous upgrade over Wanya and Kingsley getting Mahomes killed and ruining games.
Jawaan is a solid level starter. Anyone who bitches at that after what we’ve seen are completely unrealistic.
I get it. But you know damn well that's exactly what would happen. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
So we're gonna pay Robinson a good chunk of change, have a high paid LG/C/RT and a 2nd round pick at RG.
Then we've got a 1st round WR/2nd round WR and will probably pay another one this year.
Seems the "no resources on offense" talking points are kinda bunk....
Ehhh
If Thuney is back it'll be on a new deal so his 27 million dollar cap hit should be reduced significantly. Also they have in house options for RG so that shouldn't require dollars.
Personally I think we should throw numbers at LT, go sign Tyron Smith and Jedrick Wills, if Wills can't stick at LT maybe he's a RT or a guard, he's got enough talent to be worth a signing. [Reply]