Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Id guess the plan is to have Creed stabilize the middle. Now that guards are getting paid like tackles you might as well pay the tackles and let guards fill in as needed. If you can shore up both spots and have a good center your line should be fairly stable.
No OL is ever “set” long term. It’s just not possible to do that.
You have to have a couple spots solidified and the others get filled in with short term vets or draft picks.
I think you have it right. Going to have to likely get the tackles “set” with Creed then go cheap on guards. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DRM08:
Yep, void years are the cheat code to really load up the roster. If KC refuses to use the aggressive void year approach like other teams, the Chiefs will always be at a disadvantage in roster construction.
Normally a team that has almost no money invested in it's secondary..minimal at LB and honestly Chris Jones is the only guy on the DL making major bank...you'd think wow I bet this offense is stacked but then we have...
A WR room that makes small potatoes, Kelce gets paid but even adding him it's still not a huge amount..RB room is cheap..
So we literally live in a world where all of the Chiefs money is Mahomes, Chris Jones, Joe Thuney, Creed Humphrey and Jawaan Taylor? And just compare that to the team they played last night...
The Eagles have Hurts making good money, not Mahomes money, Barkley is well paid, Both their OT's are highly paid, Dickerson makes bank, and both of their WR's have big deals. Josh Sweat and Darius Slay making bank too..
The Chiefs just played a team that drafts well and is also wiling to use cash/void to stack it's roster. We're playing teams like this with 1 arm tied behind our backs because they have a card we don't. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
No OL is ever “set” long term. It’s just not possible to do that.
You have to have a couple spots solidified and the others get filled in with short term vets or draft picks.
I think you have it right. Going to have to likely get the tackles “set” with Creed then go cheap on guards.
Right. I didn't mean for ten years or anything. But likely you can stabilize for 2-3 years at a time. Hopefully hitting on draft picks, signing one or two long term then letting some walk. Its a constant churn but I think thats the goal long term. To me it makes sense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
So now Clark is cheap? JFC
Grasping at straws. We came out flat as **** and just got beat on the Oline. But people need a bigger reason that that. WE NEED FULL SYSTEM ACCOUNTABILITY!!!
Andy- game plan
Nagy-Not Beienemy
The Clarks Cheap
The Clarks 10/10 daughter- Distraction
Chiefs planet- did not get 10k posts to get Hopkins a year earlier
Hopkins-dropped shit
Veach cant draft tackles [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I mean they are a lot less willing to play some of the void year game than some of these other teams are.
They haven't had to at this point. Maybe things will change after this game but they've been in the conference championship every year since Mahomes became the starter. They're doing A LOT right. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They haven't had to at this point. Maybe things will change after this game but they've been in the conference championship every year since Mahomes became the starter. They're doing A LOT right.
They are, but that game is why we end up being told the team the Chiefs are facing is more talented.
The Chiefs aren't a shitty drafting team and have guys on rookie deals all over the field, so there can be only 1 other reason. [Reply]
I think Reid and Veach fooled themselves. They so wanted to magically find a great drafted young player at LT that they forget the prospect was a PROJECT and force fed him into the lineup with no safety net. [Reply]
I think it takes too much capital to trade into the Top 5 or Top 10 to grab a college guy that you "hope" will turn out to be a really good player. He might also be a bust. If you're going down the trade path, it might need to be for a proven veteran. And that's difficult to do because teams are gonna want to hang on to their proven Left Tackles if they have them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
So now Clark is cheap? JFC
I mean, he’s been one of the worst rated owners in recent years for things like facilities and training staff and he’s not towards the top when it comes to cash over cap spending. He’s not Mike Brown cheap but he also isn’t close to fully leveraging the cap with cash spending in the way someone like Lurie, Haslam, etc. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They haven't had to at this point. Maybe things will change after this game but they've been in the conference championship every year since Mahomes became the starter. They're doing A LOT right.
They could try to be less reactionary and not constantly wait for wake up calls like the TB and Philly SBs to enact change. Good leadership foresees impending issues as much as possible before the bottom drops out and they have to react with wholesale changes. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
I mean, he’s been one of the worst rated owners in recent years for things like facilities and training staff and he’s not towards the top when it comes to cash over cap spending. He’s not Mike Brown cheap but he also isn’t close to fully leveraging the cap with cash spending in the way someone like Lurie, Haslam, etc.
What? This is just dumb. Clark's job is not to manage the cap. That's on Veach. And the team didn't lose because of the facilities and training staff. Veach has to draft better. That's how you sustain dynasties.
Pats were horrible at drafting after their 2007 season. It wasn't until they drafted Gronk, McCourty, and a few other players that they got back to the super bowl.
Compared to Howie, Veach has not drafted well. Part of it is picking late in the draft. Part of it is scouting. [Reply]