Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.
The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.
I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.
I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.
Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.
We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:
2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5
Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.
Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Looks like we're closer together on a lot of these guys than we've been in years past.
May be harder for us to find things to yell at each other about this year...
FUCK YOU, KYLE WILLIAMS IS BETTER THAN PAT BRYANT!!!
What do you (and everyone else) think about Jordan Watkins from Ole Miss? He's fast and seems to hit on the bombs a lot. I have a very loose 5th-round grade on him. Would you take him in the 4th? Is he more of a late-round flier to you? [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I feel a little guilty with 26 first-round grades. I think I have 30 2nd and 32 3rd-round grades. That will all change soon but that's where I'm sitting now.
I don't feel like I'm really forcing anyone in the 1st, except maybe Shedeur and Conerly. They might be more fringe but I don't know that I'd change much against too many classes.
Anyone you would axe off of this 1st round grade list? Anyone you'd absolutely add?
QB Ward, Sanders
RB Jeanty
WR McMillan, Burden III, Egbuka
TE Warren, Loveland
OL Simmons, Campbell, Banks, Conerly, Membou, Booker
ER Carter, Scourton, Green, Pearce, Walker
DT Graham, Nolan, Harmon
CB Hunter, Johnson, Morrison (depending on his hip)
SS Starks
Walker is a bit of a surprise in the 1st, no? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Walker is a bit of a surprise in the 1st, no?
I kindof assumed he meant Williams? Mykel Williams is a pretty clear 1st rounder to me based on nothing but raw talent. That's a big, fast dude. Also a little surprised that Shemar Stewart didn't make his list. Barron seems like a 1st rounder as well.
I don't think I'd give Conerly a '1st round grade' but I do think he'll probably go in the 1st.
I probably wouldn't put Starks in the 1st -- I think you can make an argument that Emmanwori is the best S in the class and I think if you're not clearly the best S in the class, you probably aren't getting a 1st round grade.
Grant out of Michigan will get a 1st round grade for some, IMO. But not for a lot of teams. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
What do you (and everyone else) think about Jordan Watkins from Ole Miss? He's fast and seems to hit on the bombs a lot. I have a very loose 5th-round grade on him. Would you take him in the 4th? Is he more of a late-round flier to you?
Funny -- I noticed him a bit when I was looking at Harris and thought "Hmmm....maybe oughta look at him a bit more..."
Mostly he made me LESS interested in Harris... [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I kindof assumed he meant Williams? Mykel Williams is a pretty clear 1st rounder to me based on nothing but raw talent. That's a big, fast dude. Also a little surprised that Shemar Stewart didn't make his list. Barron seems like a 1st rounder as well.
I don't think I'd give Conerly a '1st round grade' but I do think he'll probably go in the 1st.
I probably wouldn't put Starks in the 1st -- I think you can make an argument that Emmanwori is the best S in the class and I think if you're not clearly the best S in the class, you probably aren't getting a 1st round grade.
Grant out of Michigan will get a 1st round grade for some, IMO. But not for a lot of teams.
No, I meant Jalon Walker. I see alot of Hassaan Reddick. Probably not as much Micah Parsons. I see him becoming that genre of player though, those lighter rush linebackers that wreak havoc.
I don't have a 1st round grade on Mykel Williams. He's very, very raw. I love his traits. I'd likely take him at 31. I just wouldn't put him in that top-20 class of players. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
No, I meant Jalon Walker. I see alot of Hassaan Reddick. Probably not as much Micah Parsons. I see him becoming that genre of player though, those lighter rush linebackers that wreak havoc.
I don't have a 1st round grade on Mykel Williams. He's very, very raw. I love his traits. I'd likely take him at 31. I just wouldn't put him in that top-20 class of players.
Ah -- Jalon.
I saw it and immediately went to Deone (haven't had Jalon in my head as an Edge).
Jalon w/ a 1st round grade makes sense. And yeah, I could see him being more of an edge rusher than off-ball sort at the next level. I do think he's more capable of being a true 4-3 style 'backer than Parsons was, though.
As for Williams -- I'd be stoked to get him at 31. Make due with a vet DE/FAU for a year -- might even take 2. But I think you have EXACTLY the kind of DE I'd want to see opposite of Karlaftis if/when he hits his ceiling.
But maybe that year of development he'd probably take is enough to take the 'blue chip' tag off him. That's fair. [Reply]
I saw it and immediately went to Deone (haven't had Jalon in my head as an Edge).
Jalon w/ a 1st round grade makes sense. And yeah, I could see him being more of an edge rusher than off-ball sort at the next level. I do think he's more capable of being a true 4-3 style 'backer than Parsons was, though.
As for Williams -- I'd be stoked to get him at 31. Make due with a vet DE/FAU for a year -- might even take 2. But I think you have EXACTLY the kind of DE I'd want to see opposite of Karlaftis if/when he hits his ceiling.
But maybe that year of development he'd probably take is enough to take the 'blue chip' tag off him. That's fair.
I do think a team will "reach" for Mykel, don't get me wrong. I've fluctuated back and forth with him a bunch. At the end of the day, there are only so many guys with his physical traits and we saw what teams would do when Walker went #1 over Hutchinson. [Reply]
We met with this kid. Looks a lot like a Samaje Perine to me. 6’1” 233 lbs. could be a 3 down back immediately. Long speed doesn’t seem there to me. No way in hell that he runs a 4.45.
Ollie Gordon
The single most slept on player in the 2025 NFL draft.
As a 19 year old sophomore he put up -1,732 rushing yards -22 total touchdowns -39 receptions -Doak Walker award winner (best rb in the country)
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Curious to see him run. He looks really slow on tape.
This was my concern. If you're looking for thunder, he looks the part. If you want lightning, I dunno. Definitely want to see that 40 because there's elements to his game I like. [Reply]
OK state alum here. Huge Gordon fan but he’s got to trim down and get back to what he was prior to the 24 season.
The more I dig in and see the defensive strength of this class the more desperate I find myself to mock a RB earlier. The need feels like it’s growing for me by the day. I know it shouldn’t but man I want that dimension back for this team. [Reply]