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Nzoner's Game Room>*****Official 2025 Royals Season Repository Thread*****
ChiefsCountry 01:34 PM 01-01-2025




Coming off an American League Divisional Series appearance, its year 3 of Matt Quatraro tenure. Can they take the next step to a division title? Can Bobby Witt, Jr. take his superstar status to another level? Can Cole Ragans develop more? Will the other starting pitching duplicate last season? The offense can it deliver more? Who will be in the outfield? How about the new stadium development?

Free Agents/Trades Acquisitions
Jonathan India, 2B
Joey Wiemer, OF
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KC_Connection 11:42 PM 01-21-2025
Originally Posted by Ocotillo:
Your answer is that society views different types of cheating on separate scales. Drastically altering one's body composition through chemical means is high on or at the top of the list. There's a reason why WADA and track and field gives an automatic two-year ban for doping.

I do think the Astros went beyond just gamesmanship where they're using technology and AI to decode signs. It's much more flagrant than using a corked bat or throwing a screwball.
The Astros literally had a coach set up watching a video feed feeding them pitch calls which they proceeded to communicate to the hitters at the plate for an entire season. I’d argue that’s a far more severe form of cheating than simply doing what a large portion of the league was already doing in the 90s/00s (which wasn’t actually against any MLB rule and which they didn’t even test for until 20 years ago).

And if any of these writers actually cared that much about doping, they’d never have let David Ortiz in either.
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Ocotillo 11:58 PM 01-21-2025
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
The Astros literally had a coach set up watching a video feed feeding them pitch calls which they proceeded to communicate to the hitters at the plate for an entire season. I’d argue that’s a far more severe form of cheating than simply doing what a large portion of the league was already doing in the 90s/00s (which wasn’t actually against any MLB rule and which they didn’t even test for until 20 years ago).

And if any of these writers actually cared that much about doping, they’d never have let David Ortiz in either.
The players knew it was wrong. Even if Fay Vincent's 1991 memo had no teeth to it, it was against the law.

Donald Fehr and the MLBPA were vehemently against testing anyway, so it had no chance to be included in a CBA. Fehr cried privacy concerns. Fehr only relented to testing when the players were shamed publicly.
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Mecca 12:15 AM 01-22-2025
Originally Posted by Ocotillo:
Your answer is that society views different types of cheating on separate scales. Drastically altering one's body composition through chemical means is high on or at the top of the list. There's a reason why WADA and track and field gives an automatic two-year ban for doping.

I do think the Astros went beyond just gamesmanship where they're using technology and AI to decode signs. It's much more flagrant than using a corked bat or throwing a screwball.
Just like all these NFL guys aren't roided out..
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Ocotillo 12:50 AM 01-22-2025
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Just like all these NFL guys aren't roided out..
Julius Peppers is in the Pro Football HOF.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/columns/pasq...n/1460692.html
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tk13 08:25 PM 01-22-2025
This might be worse than some of the lists that put Mahomes at 4th or 5th or wherever.

A historic season in Kansas City that ended with an AL MVP podium finish!

Superstar Bobby Witt Jr. is The Shredder's #4 shortstop on the #Top10RightNow ahead of the 2025 season. pic.twitter.com/ujlbSX7yGq

— MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) January 23, 2025

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siberian khatru 08:32 PM 01-22-2025
I assume by The Shredder, that means they put all the names into a shredder and then just randomly grab whatever comes out.
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arrowheadnation 08:37 PM 01-22-2025
Bulletin board material. Top 2 or 3 player in the sport, but 4th best at his position because....reasons. The math is not mathing.
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poolboy 08:40 PM 01-22-2025
god I hate the media
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PHOG 08:51 PM 01-22-2025
Just put that BS in the shredder where it belongs.
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Ocotillo 08:53 PM 01-22-2025
The Shredder is a computer that rates the players.

I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

The two human beings that hosted the show had Witt at No. 1.

Here are BK and DeRo's #Top10RightNow lists at shortstop �� pic.twitter.com/8cRw5lxqY6

— MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) January 23, 2025

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PHOG 09:41 PM 01-22-2025
Originally Posted by Ocotillo:
The Shredder is a computer that rates the players.

I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

The two human beings that hosted the show had Witt at No. 1.

Now that's more like it.
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poolboy 04:20 PM 01-23-2025
Profar to the Braves
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poolboy 05:18 PM 01-23-2025
Can Hunter Harvey compete for us this year? seems like after he got traded to us, he checked out with some injuries. no bp pieces in FA
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Wilson8 05:31 PM 01-23-2025
Originally Posted by poolboy:
Profar to the Braves
The Braves announced that they have signed free agent outfielder Jurickson Profar to a three-year, $42MM deal. The MVP Sports Group client will make $12MM this year and then $15MM in each of the next two seasons. Robert Murray of FanSided reported earlier that the two sides were in agreement. Atlanta designated right-hander Connor Gillispie in a corresponding move.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/...on-profar.html
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dlphg9 05:43 PM 01-23-2025
Originally Posted by Wilson8:
The Braves announced that they have signed free agent outfielder Jurickson Profar to a three-year, $42MM deal. The MVP Sports Group client will make $12MM this year and then $15MM in each of the next two seasons. Robert Murray of FanSided reported earlier that the two sides were in agreement. Atlanta designated right-hander Connor Gillispie in a corresponding move.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/...on-profar.html
That's an overpay for him. He's probably gonna revert back go his usual shitty self now.
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