Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
All of those celebrities showing up to watch Colorado barely beat Colorado State while being a heavy favorite was a pretty cringey moment
Why is that cringy? Just because you don't have celebrity friends to support you - I swear people are so salty. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DenverChief:
On a prayer 61 yard FG at the end of the game. Colorado basically led TCU the whole game and then traded go ahead 4th Q TD's before CU held them on Downs and won the game.
Mizzou was a 3.5 point favorite.
TCU was a 21 point favorite.
if you can't tell the difference in the games....
I think what Deion is doing at Colorado is impressive and if they win 7 or 8 games he should be recognized nationally with different Coach of the Year awards.
However, that doesn't mean the team deserves the rankings/recognition they've gotten. Beating TCU was a nice win, though in all honesty, there shouldn't be rankings until like mid-October as everything is based off the previous season and not the current year.
Colorado is a good story to follow given the nature how Sanders is structuring their roster via a new and unconventional path.
Doesn't mean they're a good team (yet). Their defense is atrocious. They'll be good in 1-2 years.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Mizzou beat a 15th ranked k-state team and didn't end up in the rankings for it.
No, Colorado didn't deserve their ranking and that's EXACTY why people are/were rooting against them.
I love Sanders and his approach. I don't think he's even that shameless self-promoter (many do it for him). But the sports media was in a rush to skip 2/3 of the 'hero's journey' and run straight to him slaying dragons.
I don't think Colorado should be ranked (see point above) but there's a style difference between beating a Power 5 team at home by 3 vs winning by 3 on the road against a Power 5 team. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DenverChief:
3-0 isn't actual performance? Taking Jackson State - a perennial loser - to multiple bowl games after his arrival - isn't performance? Who has the motive or belief here?
You're the one doing all the assuming and white knighting here. Just go ahead and "bless his heart" while you're at it.
He's a HOF player turned coach with tools to be semi successful. So far he's used his tools to do a decent job of recruiting and then beat a few shit teams, including TCU, and lost to a boss. It's ok to leave it at that without the qualifier or turning the work into a Disney story. They might even get a few more wins if the media would do the same, but that doesn't pull the right strings so it will be what it will be and they'll wear a target for it.
.... and no, I don't believe I've ever met stevieray, but I assume it'd be a good experience if I ever did. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Mizzou beat a 15th ranked k-state team and didn't end up in the rankings for it.
No, Colorado didn't deserve their ranking and that's EXACTY why people are/were rooting against them.
I love Sanders and his approach. I don't think he's even that shameless self-promoter (many do it for him). But the sports media was in a rush to skip 2/3 of the 'hero's journey' and run straight to him slaying dragons.
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I mean, it definitely doesn’t help to have a heisman caliber player on both sides of the ball out. A healthy Travis hunter maybe turns this from a humiliating blowout to a big loss. Which sounds like the same thing but it’s quite a bit different
It doesn't. Oregon murders them either way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DenverChief:
On a prayer 61 yard FG at the end of the game. Colorado basically led TCU the whole game and then traded go ahead 4th Q TD's before CU held them on Downs and won the game.
Mizzou was a 3.5 point favorite.
TCU was a 21 point favorite.
if you can't tell the difference in the games....
K-State was a far more intact team coming into the season than TCU, though. K-State is still a team that I think ends the season ranked in the top 20 (hell, I think they'll end the season ahead of Mizzou). They're a good football team.
TCU was a god football team in 2022 and a much lesser version of that in 2023. I watched both games and K-State played a very good game and got beat by Mizzou playing a slightly better one. The Colorado game was just TCU not knowing what it is without their Heisman finalist QB in Week 1 and they played like it. They weren't nearly the opponent in that game that K-State was.
And beyond that, you don't 'earn' a top 20 ranking through beating a team in Week 1 after winning 2 games the season prior. And those losses from Colorado last year weren't close - they were getting dog-walked by every team they played. That ranking was a gift born of hype and a hot game by their QB. And when they damn near lost to Colorado State and then got absolutely massacred this weekend, that was clearly proven. That's a 2 man show - that's not a top 25 football team and anyone viewing that through an objective lens would've recognized that.
When USC trucks them next week (and they will) then I suspect you'll see the 'hate' dial down and people who would've otherwise rooted for Sanders will start doing so again.
I want to see him do well because I like the message he puts out there and for all the 'new school' social media stuff, he still brings a very no nonsense, old-school foundation to his approach on dealing with college players (see: kids). I respect the hell out of that.
But I'm not interested in giving him a free pass. [Reply]
