Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill was detained by police today entering the stadium for a driving violation, per his agent Drew Rosenhaus. But Rosenhaus said Hill will play today.
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
I've saw these videos on youtube with cops telling people they are being detained. The member of the public says what for? they usually come back with some BS excuse, I smell weed, you wont tell me where you are going, where you come from, wont give me more information than the cops are entitled to ask.
I was detained once because I wouldn't tell them where I worked. After I told them coming from work. At the time it wasn't allowed. It changed later that year.
They ask for documents that at least in Florida we are required for to have in your car at all times. Insurance, registration, your license. That's it, you don't have to answer any questions and can roll your window up but crack it some in case the cop gives you a lawful order.
It's been all the way to the supreme court and upheld. I bet one of his lawyers told Hill to roll up his window after giving the cops the documents and not say a word, sign the ticket and give him or her a call for the heads up.
I'm in Florida like Hill. A name like him has to be careful shit don't escalate out control.
There was no guns or drugs in the car. The fact that his teammate went to deescalate and ended up in cuffs too shows the cops were out of control with power.
Yep, but if they answer you were reckless/careless driving and speeding, then you need to comply. If they can't articulate what your crime was, then you don't have to comply. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup: :-) That was not racist. I just called it for what it was no more than the way some hillbilly redneck speaks with an awful drawl. Any teacher/professor in a speech class would instruct the student to talk without slang. Since he has been to college I am sure that he was instructed to not talk in that manner. It is not correct.
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
Yep, but if they answer you were reckless/careless driving and speeding, then you need to comply. If they can't articulate what your crime was, then you don't have to comply.
They will always provide a reason, even if it is weak one. Refusing to exit your vehicle on demand lets them arrest you for resisting or obstruction. It's best to comply and argue in court later. There are tons of videos on YouTube where this happens. [Reply]
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
Yes, but as I said earlier, if they ask you to step out of your car during a traffic stop, they can, it has been court decided. If you don't comply, they can legally address the non compliance by removing the individual from their car and detaining the individual. Cop probably didn't handle this right, but Tyreek should have gotten out of the car when asked.
There is understandably gray area for safety purposes but this is abusing that privilege. Maybe they can pull him out of the car but there doesn't look to be any good reason to. Rather it looks like (from limited video) tyreek is trying to comply but the cop is unnecessarily impatient. For both of their safety, why escalate this into a situation where you put the driver on the defensive and in a position where now they're confused and scared. That's how a lot of this turns out really badly for one of the two parties. Thankfully that wasn't the case.
We need that gray area to proect officers because one small misstep can be fatal. But it's a careful line because as seen here, the other side of the line is that misuse can threaten citizen safety. They are throwing out the excuse that he was uncooperative inside the car and probably didn't anticipate there would be video showing that probably was not the case. What about all the interactions that weren't recorded?
Also, we don't have proof of when he legitimately became cooperative or how much he resisted exiting the vehicle. You would hope there is bodycam to prove it because they're already 0/1 in terms of unsubstantiated accusations [Reply]
