ChiefsPlanet Mobile
Page 3 of 3
< 123
Nzoner's Game Room>"Triple option but for defense" a small school DC using an innovative defense.
|Zach| 03:20 PM 07-04-2024
"How 'the flex' is changing the way defense dictates games"


https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...l-defense-2024

GREENSBURG, Penn. -- When COVID-19 shut down the world in the spring of 2020, Kevin May was like most coaches. He was bored.

He'd been hired as the defensive coordinator at Division II Seton Hill a year earlier to match his unique scheme -- the flex -- with a team in need of a massive upgrade.

The initial results were predictably mixed. There was some mild success, but the system was new, and players often struggled to get a handle on it. Then COVID-19 put it all on hiatus, and May, an avowed football nerd whose wife, Shelby, jokes that the sport is his lone passion, found himself needing something to do.

"So we went to Lowe's," he said, "and bought a bunch of white boards."

If necessity is the mother of invention, boredom might be its father, and what May invented during COVID might now be the most dynamic, aggressive and confounding scheme run by any team in the country.

The flex is run by only a few other teams at any level these days. May learned it at Wyoming from longtime coach David Brown in the early 2010s. It's complex, it's confusing for offenses, and, as Brown and other originators of the system often scolded, it's not to be changed.

"I was always told," May said, "never to mess with grandma's recipe."

But in the spring of 2020, there was no football, May's house was littered with playbooks and drawing boards, and there was grandma's recipe, just waiting for some new ingredients.

At its core, it's a system designed to disguise the defensive front, often with one or no down linemen, and nearly always more defenders in the box than the offense can match. But the flex, as it originated, also had its weaknesses, particularly a reliance on man coverage on the back end. May figured he could add some layers to the base system, so he started studying. He devoured textbooks, talked with offensive coaches about their blocking schemes and watched online clinics on YouTube, sometimes at 4x speed, looking for any small detail he could exploit in his new system.

In short, May learned the rules everyone else followed, then designed a defense that broke nearly every one of them.

"The smartest guys we have in the room go against this for four years," said Daniel Day, Seton Hill's head coach and O-line coordinator, "and they still say, 'I don't know what they're doing.'"

Since returning from the COVID shutdown, May's defense has taken Seton Hill from the dregs of Division II football to something at least approaching contention.

Seton Hill is a small Catholic school about 35 miles southwest of Pittsburgh, with an enrollment of less than 1,700. In 2018, the year before May arrived, the Griffins ranked 157th in Division II in scoring defense, 159th in rush defense and 152nd in sacks. After the team returned from COVID in 2021, Seton Hill finished the season 27th in scoring defense, ninth in rush defense and nearly tripled its sack total. Three years later, May's defense has had back-to-back conference defensive players of the year, an All-American linebacker, and in 2023, was fifth among all D-II schools in sacks and tackles for loss. In the two years before May arrived, Seton Hill had a combined 1-21 record. Last season, the Griffins finished with a winning record for the first time in 15 years. More astonishingly, the bulk of players responsible for this success began their careers at Seton Hill as walk-ons.

And yet, entering his sixth year at Seton Hill, May's system largely remains relegated to this sleepy outpost in Western Pennsylvania, as bigger schools calculate the risk-reward of trying something so outside-the-box and continue to prefer the status quo to a big swing.

"It blows my mind that people don't want to run this," Day said. "If you ran this at Alabama, with the best of the best, I don't know how you'd stop it."

MAY IS CERTAINLY not the first coaching savant to try to disrupt the mainstream approach to Xs and Os.

Mouse Davis and June Jones created the run-and-shoot at Portland State in the 1970s, then saw the system flourish in the NFL a decade later. Hal Mumme and Mike Leach refined the Air Raid at Iowa Wesleyan and Valdosta State before it became an offensive staple at every level 25 years later. More recently, Zach Kittley took Air Raid principles to develop his own scheme at Houston Baptist, then helped Bailey Zappe rewrite the NCAA record book at Western Kentucky.

"You have to have people above you that have some idea what they're looking for and courageous enough to actually go through with it," said Hal Mumme, the originator of the Air Raid offense who spent the early years of his career toiling in Division II, waiting for a chance to prove his system could work anywhere. "I had to do it at lower levels like that because nobody would hire me to do it at a higher level."

Even those who haven't rewritten the book at higher levels -- Kevin Kelley (never punt) and Bob Stitt (West Coast offense with a twist) -- have seen at least portions of their playbook copied in the modern game.

What's unique about May is that he has gotten little fanfare despite a scheme that begs for attention and, unlike all those other coaches, he's doing it on defense.

"There's been innovative guys," Mumme said. "There's just not quite as many as there are on offense. Defensive guys tend to be more traditional."

Traditional, in this case, might be a synonym for risk averse. On offense, taking shots for big payouts is simply part of the DNA of most coaches. If it hits, the replay ends up on SportsCenter. If it doesn't work out, well, there's always the next play or next series. On defense, the formula is usually reversed. It's the busts that get talked about by angry fans and shown on the other team's highlight package.

But May disagrees with the entire premise. His version of the flex isn't high risk, high reward. He prefers to think of it more like the triple option, but for defense -- a plug-and-play scheme that virtually anyone could run with success, but yet still so outside the norm that other teams struggle to prepare for it.

"This is the first defensive system I've ever seen that does dictate [to the offense]," Day said, "because it just breaks so many rules."

A version of the flex was popularized in the 1970s and 1980s by former Dallas Cowboys head coach Tom Landry, whose own players often complained about its inscrutability despite the team's dominant performance. Dick Tomney's Arizona Wildcats ran a flex with Tedy Bruschi in the 1990s with great success, too. But the flex had largely fallen out of favor at the highest levels because it inverted nearly all of the pillars of typical football Xs and Os.

That's exactly what May liked about it.

"We have non-traditional players aligned in spots where they normally don't align, and they have the ability to do a lot of non-traditional things," May said. "Every offense has a playbook with all different looks they're likely to see. They're not going to see a picture of our defense in there."

In their base alignment, the nose tackle has his hand on the ground, and two other defenders are standing just off the line of scrimmage with two "flex" linebackers standing about a yard back. Those are the wild cards who can do virtually anything. Two more linebackers are standing about five yards off the ball. Three DBs are lined up across from a receiver, and one safety is deep. Any one of the seven players near the line could blitz. Six of them could drop into coverage, too. And May will show that same front and run an array of plays out of the same look. Often, he'll call a play he knows won't work early in the game just to see how the offense reacts, setting the stage to call something different from the same package later in the game. It's chess when most offenses are stuck following the rules of checkers.

Rarely a game goes by, Day said, when some opposing offensive coach doesn't approach him in the handshake line, shaking his head and muttering about how glad they are to not face May's defense again until the following year. One O-line coach last year admitted in pregame warm-ups that he had absolutely no clue how to block Seton Hill's front.


"And we hadn't even played the game yet," Day said.

In his first season as QB coach at Mercyhurst in 2022, Eric Acciani thought he had a good plan to beat May's flex. The system relies on a lot of man coverage concepts, and Mercyhurst had its share of receivers Acciani thought could win a one-on-one match-up. He schemed that week entirely around exploiting those mismatches on the outside.

Mercyhurst was sacked eight times and failed to score.

A year later, Acciani had completely reconsidered his approach. He'd spent hours during the offseason focused exclusively on Seton Hill, and after being battered in the trenches the last time, he was now certain the key to a win was taking away the Griffins' pass rush. The game plan was built around 10 personnel -- with four receivers on the field -- and prioritized getting the ball out of the QB's hands as quickly as possible.

"We thought we had a really good handle on it," Acciani said, "but Kevin made a couple adjustments and, again, we didn't score."

Two years, two completely different approaches on offense, and two shutouts.

This is, perhaps, the true genius of the scheme. The offense retains the illusion of dictating the action, but May's already thought three moves ahead.

THE QUESTION POSED to Seton Hill rover Quinton Posey is fairly straightforward. May's scheme is all about disguising fronts and adjusting on the fly, so what, exactly, goes through Posey's mind pre-snap as he makes his reads and decides what adjustments to make?

"Well, we have a lot of keys," Posey said. "I mean, I also cover a lot, too. I might line up on a receiver playing man. Also, I blitz a lot."

In other words, it might be easier to ask Posey what he isn't thinking about pre-snap.

And herein lies one of the key concerns with May's system: It's simply too complicated. Posey says when he first arrived as a freshman, coming from a high school system he called "pretty simple," it was a water-from-a-firehose situation. It was a year, maybe 18 months, he said, before it started to click.

May slots each of his players into categories: One-, two-, three- and four-dimensional players. The lowest level guys are still figuring out the nuances of their specific position. The two-dimensional players understand their whole position group. Three-dimensional guys grasp the entire defense, and the top tier are the key veterans, who not only know everything May's defense wants to do, but just about everything the opposing offense is trying to do, too.

When May first arrived at Seton Hill, Day asked for a list of height and weight requirements at each position group for recruiting purposes. May didn't have one.

His goal on defense isn't to get guys who look the part. He wants guys who can play the part, guys who, after a year or two, will be three- or four-dimensional.

At its core, May's defense functions like an algorithm, full of if/then commands that usually rely on the same basic underpinnings but with minor changes based on the look the offense presents. Each player has his set of rules and responses, refined over time, and when it's all clicking, those players who barely sniffed a Division II offer elsewhere look like absolute superstars.

"Watch all 11 guys one by one and you probably wouldn't feel so worried about it," said Ancini, now the offensive coordinator at Tennessee Tech. "But then you watch them execute together and how they play off each other, they just do such an incredible job and it's different than anyone you play against. It's really simple for them but as an offensive coach, you've got to spend a lot of time on them."

Take that age-old problem of leaving your DBs in man coverage. This is the part that terrifies most DCs. A corner alone is a corner waiting to get beat.

But that's not how May's system works. The defense often presents as man coverage, but in reality, players in the box can drop into coverage, and at least two defenders will always have eyes on the QB, offering help underneath or over the top. Every DB understands where his leverage is and when to pass off a coverage to another defender, meaning he's usually just responsible for covering half the route tree. And, perhaps just as importantly, the defenders dropping into coverage, the leverage, and the route tree a DB needs to cover -- it varies from snap to snap, and the opposing QB can never be quite certain what he's seeing before snapping the ball.

"He's got such an incredible understanding of what offenses do," Ancini said. "Offenses are built to find a weakness, so here's how we play it. A lot of coaches have that knowledge but he does the best job of having his kids know that as well. They're always very dialed in. Everyone on that defense is always on the same page. A lot of coaches have really good ideas but they can't communicate with their players like Kevin can."


If there's a secret ingredient that makes the whole thing work, that's it. May is an Xs and Os nerd, but more than that, he's a coach who simply loves his players.

Seton Hill's signature set piece on defense is a battered trash can -- "the takeaway can." The can is emblazoned with the words "Code Red," the defensive mantra that applies to all position groups. It was May's wife's idea. She donated it to the team in 2019, and it has been through some wars.

"It's broken and battered and sharp, and we've got to put duct tape on it," May said. "But I love it."

After every takeaway in practice or a game, a player gets to dunk the team's special "code red" football, then signs his name onto it. Whoever has the most signatures at year's end gets to keep the ball at the team's awards banquet. The team loves it.

But it's not just a takeaway gimmick like Miami's turnover chain or Oregon State's chainsaw. It's part of a larger philosophy of team building. Watch the game film, and it's easy to see how much fun the players are having on defense, but what's missed from the all-22 copy is what happens when a play ends.

After a defensive player makes a big play in practice, Day has instructed his camera crew to stay trained on the defense and capture the aftermath: Players dancing, celebrating, jumping into each other's arms. It's a party. Day remembers a few early practices with first-year offensive coordinator Blaise Holzer when he had to keep his new coach from going ballistic in frustration from the defense's seemingly overzealous celebrations, reminding Holzer, "you're going to love this on Saturdays."

"You won't see anyone practice the way we do anywhere at any level," Day said. "But it's all because Coach May's biggest aspect to the players is you celebrate together. It's not just the plays, but how we practice, the culture he's built to allow these dudes to have some fun."

MAY IS SKIMMING through some film, showing off a few of his favorite plays. There's one where he has seven defenders in the box, but only his nose tackle has his hand in the dirt. Both Seton Hill's flex defenders are lined up on the same side of the ball. The offense is clearly flummoxed. The QB looks to the sideline then checks into a new play. May's D immediately checks, too. The center turns around and yells to the quarterback. Neither has any clue what's happening. The ball is snapped. Two box defenders drop into coverage. The center and guard pull -- in the wrong direction it turns out. The nose tackle has a free line to the QB for a sack.

"My favorite picture in America," May said, "is two or three offensive linemen blocking nobody, and the quarterback getting sacked."

He freezes the film and, sure enough, there are three offensive linemen doing the football equivalent of the mime-in-a-box routine.

There are drawbacks to all this, of course. Day notes that practice can be tricky, because his offense can't simply work against his D, because the offense will never see anything that looks like this defense all year. For Seton Hill, the scheme has been a boon for recruiting because the Griffins don't need stars. The scheme can make anyone a star. But at the higher levels, unique schemes can scare away top recruits. That was always the knock on the triple option. And while it's a joy to watch opponents try to figure out what they're seeing each week, there's a genuine challenge in ensuring all the guys playing D at Seton Hill know exactly what they're doing at all times.

And yet, draw up a list of pros and cons, and Day eagerly pronounces a clear verdict for his team. Seton Hill is better -- much better -- because of May's defense.

It's not unlike what Mumme and Leach faced early in their careers. They were different, and it was safer to lose looking like everyone else than to roll the dice on something completely new.

But the Air Raid kept working, and eventually, more people began to believe.

That's May's hope. The film speaks for itself, and all the risk aversion in the world can't trump the bottom line. The system works. Eventually, others will follow.

How can May be sure?

Way back when May first got to Wyoming as a graduate assistant, he was a skeptic, too.

"The first time I opened the playbook, I thought it was configured wrong," he said.

Then he saw the results.

"The more I learned it, everything else I knew about football was out the window," he said. "This was different, and it was successful.

"There's nothing like the thrill of learning football and evolving."
[Reply]
Bump 02:31 PM 07-05-2024
Originally Posted by |Zach|:
Is it really that hard to read 3k words?

get back to me on your thoughts for this, or is it too hard for you to read it?

I am writing something. I go to the store. A car is parked. Many cars are parked or moving. Some are blue. Some are tan. They have windows. In the store, there are items for sale. These include such things as soap, detergent, magazines, and lettuce. You can enhance your life with these products. Soap can be used for bathing, be it in a bathtub or in a shower. Apply the soap to your body and rinse. Detergent is used to wash clothes. Place your dirty clothes into a washing machine and add some detergent as directed on the box. Select the appropriate settings on your washing machine and you should be ready to begin. Magazines are stapled reading material made with glossy paper, and they cover a wide variety of topics, ranging from news and politics to business and stock market information. Some magazines are concerned with more recreational topics, like sports card collecting or different kinds of hairstyles. Lettuce is a vegetable. It is usually green and leafy, and is the main ingredient of salads. You may have an appliance at home that can quickly shred lettuce for use in salads. Lettuce is also used as an optional item for hamburgers and deli sandwiches. Some people even eat lettuce by itself. I have not done this. So you can purchase many types of things at stores.

If I drive around, I sometimes notice the houses and buildings all around. There are also pieces of farm land that are very large. Houses can be built from different kinds of materials. The most common types are brick, wood, and vinyl or synthetic siding. Houses have lawns that need to be tended. Lawns need to be mowed regularly. Most people use riding lawnmowers to do this. You can also use a push mower. These come in two varieties: gas-powered and manual. You don’t see manual push-mowers very much anymore, but they are a good option if you do not want to pollute the air with smoke from a gas-powered lawnmower. I notice that many families designate the lawnmowing responsibility to a teenager in the household. Many of these teenagers are provided with an allowance for mowing the yard, as well as performing other chores, like taking out the trash, washing the dishes, making their bed, and keeping the house organized. Allowances are small amounts of money given by parents to their children, usually on a weekly basis. These usually range from 5 dollars to 15 dollars, sometimes even 20 dollars. Many parents feel that teenagers can learn financial responsibility with this system.

Now I will talk about farm land. Farm land can be identified by some common features. They almost always consist of a very large patch of dirt with small green plants lined up in very long rows. You may sometimes see farm equipment riding over these rows, like tractors or combines. These machines help farmers grow more crops in less time. They are a very helpful invention. Some different types of crops are soybeans, cotton, corn, tomatoes, tobacco, and lettuce (which I mentioned earlier). Most crops are used as food, and can be defined as either fruits or vegetables. Some are commonly eaten raw, after being rinsed in water to remove any dirt. Some are often cooked, which helps give them a more pleasant taste and makes them easier to chew. A very versatile vegetable is the potato. It can be eaten raw, or it can be cooked in a variety of ways. They can be baked, and many people like to add butter to them. They can be mashed, and a lot of times brown gravy or milk gravy is poured on top of them. They can be cut into thin strips and fried. Typically a large amount of grease is required to prepare potatoes in this style, but they are easy to make and easy to eat. You can order them at several fast-food restaurants. Potatoes can also be boiled, stewed, and scalloped. There is a wide variety of options available to you when cooking potatoes.

Some other types of crops grown on farm land are used for other purposes. Cotton is used to make clothing (which I also mentioned earlier). It is a very versatile and inexpensive material for clothes. Such items as shirts, pants, socks, and underwear can be made from cotton. The process of converting cotton from a cotton plant to clothing is fairly complicated. Today, cotton is harvested more efficiently through the use of the cotton gin, invented by Eli Whitney many years ago.

Tobacco is another type of crop. It is used in making cigarettes. A lot of people smoke cigarettes, even though many medical sources have identified them as harmful to people’s health. Warnings are printed on cigarette packages reminding people of possible dangers resulting from smoking. Cigarettes are available in several brands, including Marlboro, Salem, and Virginia Slims. There is a brand called Kool, but I don’t know whether they are still available at most outlets. Tobacco farming is a large industry, and currently there is debate about it. Recently the government decided on some regulations that cost tobacco companies a large amount of money.

If you notice, some farm lands have animals living on them. Most of these are cows, and there are also pigs, sheep, and goats living on farms. Some are raised for the milk they provide. This milk goes through several processes to ensure that it is not contaminated before it is made available to consumers at stores (which I mentioned earlier). Another use for farm animals is meat. Three popular types of meat are beef, pork, and chicken. Beef comes from cows. Pork comes from pigs. Chicken comes from chickens, but you probably knew that. These animals are raised to become plump and healthy, then they are killed, sometimes at slaughter houses. The meat is then removed from their bodies, cleaned, and made available at a variety of stores and restaurants. Sometimes this process can seem gross, but it is part of an advanced ecological food chain on earth. Just like birds eat worms and tigers eat deer, human beings eat cows and pigs. The main difference is that we don’t eat animals raw. We cook the meat to remove blood, fat, and germs from it. We also season our meat with salt or different kinds of sauces. The end result is food that is very tasty and is healthy for us.

Farmers do not like trespassers. If a farmer sees one, he will sometimes shoot at them with a shotgun that he owns. Trespassing is against the law. Laws are created by government to prevent people from living in fear. They are meant to provide safety for citizens. Our government in America consists of a legislative branch, an executive branch, and a judicial branch. The legislative branch makes laws based on the concerns of citizens they represent. The executive branch consists of the President. This person enforces the law, and he has certain other duties like declaring war and approving bills prepared by members of the legislative branch. The President is also considered the leader of our country. The judicial branch interprets the laws. This branch consists of the courts and the trials held in them. Here a judge and jury determine from evidence presented by lawyers whether someone is guilty of breaking a law. Initial law enforcement takes place among police officers. They are the first people to encounter situations where a law is being broken. If a criminal (law-breaker) becomes too violent or hostile, they will use guns or mace or nightsticks to administer immediate punishment. Their goal is to bring the criminal under control, so that he can receive a punishment determined by members of the judicial branch of government. Punishments mostly include time in jail, but they can also include fines and, in extreme cases, the death penalty. There is controversy surrounding the death penalty.

Children play with toys. This is common to almost all kids. Toys come in a very wide variety. Boys tend to like cars, action figures, and toy weapons. Girls tend to like dolls, toy kitchens, and make-up. Both of them like building or assembling things, be it with Legos, blocks, Play-Doh, or something similar. Toys can be found at most stores, and these days entire stores are dedicated to selling only toys. The most popular of these is Toys ‘R’ Us (with a backwards “R”). Their mascot is Geoffrey the Giraffe. Children love to go to Toys ‘R’ Us and look at the wide variety of toys available. Most children receive the greatest quanitity of toys on their birthdays, or during the holiday season in December. For the majority of children, this holiday is Christmas. For Jewish children, the holiday is Channakuh. Either way, the kid gets presents during this time, and most of these presents are toys.

Christmas is a holiday which has gradually become centered around the character “Santa Claus” and his elves and reindeer. Children are told that Santa’s elves build their toys, and Santa delivers them personally to each house in the world by riding in an airborne sleigh hauled by nine reindeer, including Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer, who leads the way. Another popular Christmas character is Frosty the Snowman. Frosty is basically any snowman that comes to life. So during Christmas, many children build snowmen, and some of them hope that theirs might come to life. But all of these characters are myths. The true origin of Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Jesus, who founded the religion of Christianity a couple of thousand years ago. Many popular Christmas carols deal with his story, such as “Joy to the World” and “Silent Night.”

Other holidays include Thanksgiving, Halloween, and Independence Day. Thanksgiving has become a tradition of preparing large quantities of food for a large gathering of people, mainly family and friends. This meal usually features turkey or ham as the main course. Turkey and ham are both kinds of meat (which I mentioned earlier). The meal usually also consists of dressing and a wide assortment of vegetables (which I also mentioned earlier). The origin of Thanksgiving is usually traced to the days of the pilgrims, who were the first settlers in America. They made peace with the native people, the Indians, and together enjoyed a large feast, thanking God for providing them with such an abundance. (Their concepts of God were probably very different.)

Halloween is the holiday when people dress in costumes to look like other characters. Most of these are children, who go from door to door in different neighborhoods to request candy from the people living there. They usually say “trick or treat” then receive a treat. Very rarely does the person in the house respond with a trick. Halloween has some sort of demonic origin that I am not quite sure about, but the name derives from “All Hallow’s Eve.” I will not say much about Independence Day, but it is the day Americans celebrate the anniversary of our independence from Britain. Most families purchase fireworks during this holiday and set them off in their lawns (which I mentioned earlier).

America gained independence from Britain in the late 1700’s after the Revolutionary War. Britain was hoping to extend its empire across the Atlantic Ocean, but the colonists who settled the territory did not want to be under Britain’s control, with their various taxes and regulations. Both sides were very passionate about their position on the issue, so a war occurred. This war featured a few heroes, including George Washington and Paul Revere. George Washington became America’s first president when we gained independence. I am not sure what happened to Paul Revere. The Declaration of Independence was written before the war by Thomas Jefferson in 1776 and made clear the position of the colonists. It was signed by many important people, including Ben Franklin and John Hancock. Ben Franklin is well-known for many things. One of these is inventing electrical conductors in the form of lightning rods. A famous tale is that he flew a kite with a small piece of metal somewhere on the string during a lightning storm. This was an effective way to test his theory. Another thing Ben Franklin is known for is publishing Poor Richards Almanac. This was like a magazine and contained some of his famous writings and quotations. One famous quote was “Tell me, I forget. Teach me, I remember. Involve me, I learn.” Maybe this had something to do with why he flew that kite.

Trees are one of our most important natural resources. They are made of wood, and wood can be made into a variety of products. Some of the more obvious kinds are furniture, houses, and toothpicks. However, wood can also be made into paper. When I first heard this, I was skeptical, but it is true. Paper is a very important product in our society. Writers and artists have greatly benefited from the invention of paper. With only some paper and a pen or pencil, a writer can produce stories and poems that can captivate readers. They can also write down historical facts about their society. Actually, these writings don’t become historical until years later. At the time, the writings could probably be considered news. Artists use paper for their drawings and paintings. They can also use canvas. Drawings and paintings can be very beautiful. They can depict a wide variety of subjects, including flowers, animals, landscapes, and people. They can be realistic or impressionistic. Some paintings also attempt to convey emotions merely by the way the colors are combined and the brushstrokes are applied. This is a modern or contemporary approach to art. Many people think this approach does not require as much talent as the realistic styles.

I will end my writing here. I have tried to make it very boring, and I hope I have succeeded. There are plenty of boring documents available for you to read. Check your public library for more information. You can also find boring materials at a bookstore or on websites. Sometimes this information can be found in magazines (which I mentioned earlier).
[Reply]
lawrenceRaider 03:11 PM 07-05-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
In some ways it sounds a little like what Spags has been doing recently, particularly in last season's playoffs. Will have to watch some SH highlights I guess to see if it really resembles what Spags has been doing. Great thing about football, is that it's always evolving.
I thought it sounded much like what Spags did in NY with that hybrid front.

Elements certainly in KC as well, but not nearly as flexible.
[Reply]
big nasty kcnut 03:31 PM 07-05-2024
Sound like it could work.
[Reply]
Megatron96 03:32 PM 07-05-2024
Originally Posted by Bump:
get back to me on your thoughts for this, or is it too hard for you to read it?

I am writing something. I go to the store. A car is parked. Many cars are parked or moving. Some are blue. Some are tan. They have windows. In the store, there are items for sale. These include such things as soap, detergent, magazines, and lettuce. You can enhance your life with these products. Soap can be used for bathing, be it in a bathtub or in a shower. Apply the soap to your body and rinse. Detergent is used to wash clothes. Place your dirty clothes into a washing machine and add some detergent as directed on the box. Select the appropriate settings on your washing machine and you should be ready to begin. Magazines are stapled reading material made with glossy paper, and they cover a wide variety of topics, ranging from news and politics to business and stock market information. Some magazines are concerned with more recreational topics, like sports card collecting or different kinds of hairstyles. Lettuce is a vegetable. It is usually green and leafy, and is the main ingredient of salads. You may have an appliance at home that can quickly shred lettuce for use in salads. Lettuce is also used as an optional item for hamburgers and deli sandwiches. Some people even eat lettuce by itself. I have not done this. So you can purchase many types of things at stores.




blahblahblahblahblah ad nauseum and then some . . . .








I will end my writing here. I have tried to make it very boring, and I hope I have succeeded. There are plenty of boring documents available for you to read. Check your public library for more information. You can also find boring materials at a bookstore or on websites. Sometimes this information can be found in magazines (which I mentioned earlier).



Uh, the difference here is that the OP posted something directly related to football, in a football-focused forum, while your post, though in parts could be called 'interesting,' has nothing whatsoever to do with football or anything that could be even remotely related to the forum.

See, as a football fan, I enjoy reading articles about football. So reading the OP wasn't tedious for me at all, because I enjoy learning more about my favorite sport (outside of fly-fishing, for which there is no substitute). If I had to read 3000 words about say how pop/rap music is made, I'd rather poke my eyes out with a spork.
[Reply]
Bump 03:54 PM 07-05-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Uh, the difference here is that the OP posted something directly related to football, in a football-focused forum, while your post, though in parts could be called 'interesting,' has nothing whatsoever to do with football or anything that could be even remotely related to the forum.

See, as a football fan, I enjoy reading articles about football. So reading the OP wasn't tedious for me at all, because I enjoy learning more about my favorite sport (outside of fly-fishing, for which there is no substitute). If I had to read 3000 words about say how pop/rap music is made, I'd rather poke my eyes out with a spork.
the only point I was trying to make is reading isn't hard for anyone here. It just needs to be interesting. You found it interesting so you read it, cool.
[Reply]
|Zach| 03:58 PM 07-05-2024
Bump saw football talk on a football board and could not stand it! :-)
[Reply]
Rausch 04:19 PM 07-05-2024
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
It's an interesting read, for sure.

It's one of those things I'm not sure would work at higher levels. Kind of like the triple option.

It sounds like you're playing with 4 LBs on the field all the time. Basically a modified 34 D.

The answers the highest levels have found against 34s would work here, too.

Power/Zone/Gap blocking schemes. Moving pockets. Etc.
It's possible this scheme brings the innovation the 3-4 originally did under Lebeau and Cowher and Capers. You never knew who was in coverage and who was blitzing. Then, like you said, the league adjusted (other than Manning who always sucked vs. the 3-4) and it wasn't a magic pill.

As the 3-4 was starting to get figured out the Hoodie was bringing in the next big innovation of scheme flexibility. He seemed to prefer whatever scheme worked best in the moment above some 43, 34, Nickel based approach. He'd use all three and more in a month if that's what was best to stop an opponent. He cared more about whatever stopped you than some brand loyalty to scheme and then being locked in.

After that it became not how many rushers you had but how many guys you could have in coverage. How well could your LB's and safetys cover? How effective could you be with fewer pass rushers and more guys in coverage? The nickel became a thing you used more than your "base" defense.

We're at that time where something new is coming. How can you slow Mahomes? How do you prevent him from methodically marching down the field the way running games use to? Is it this? Might be. Either way something is coming...
[Reply]
CatinKS 05:59 PM 07-05-2024
I saw this during a game a few years ago, and the D lineman all stand and dance around like they might choose a different gap before the snap. It probably works against a O that cannot zone block or adjust before the snap. A don't see this at the pro level or higher college level. My high school team struggled against a 4 - 4 D where the LB's would stunt, but at a higher level, those who have time to prepare will not have any issue and actually take of advantage of the misalignment. I predict this thread will die, and not be a factor in the NFL.
[Reply]
Jewish Rabbi 06:32 PM 07-05-2024
Originally Posted by Bump:
get back to me on your thoughts for this, or is it too hard for you to read it?

I am writing something. I go to the store. A car is parked. Many cars are parked or moving. Some are blue. Some are tan. They have windows. In the store, there are items for sale. These include such things as soap, detergent, magazines, and lettuce. You can enhance your life with these products. Soap can be used for bathing, be it in a bathtub or in a shower. Apply the soap to your body and rinse. Detergent is used to wash clothes. Place your dirty clothes into a washing machine and add some detergent as directed on the box. Select the appropriate settings on your washing machine and you should be ready to begin. Magazines are stapled reading material made with glossy paper, and they cover a wide variety of topics, ranging from news and politics to business and stock market information. Some magazines are concerned with more recreational topics, like sports card collecting or different kinds of hairstyles. Lettuce is a vegetable. It is usually green and leafy, and is the main ingredient of salads. You may have an appliance at home that can quickly shred lettuce for use in salads. Lettuce is also used as an optional item for hamburgers and deli sandwiches. Some people even eat lettuce by itself. I have not done this. So you can purchase many types of things at stores.

If I drive around, I sometimes notice the houses and buildings all around. There are also pieces of farm land that are very large. Houses can be built from different kinds of materials. The most common types are brick, wood, and vinyl or synthetic siding. Houses have lawns that need to be tended. Lawns need to be mowed regularly. Most people use riding lawnmowers to do this. You can also use a push mower. These come in two varieties: gas-powered and manual. You don’t see manual push-mowers very much anymore, but they are a good option if you do not want to pollute the air with smoke from a gas-powered lawnmower. I notice that many families designate the lawnmowing responsibility to a teenager in the household. Many of these teenagers are provided with an allowance for mowing the yard, as well as performing other chores, like taking out the trash, washing the dishes, making their bed, and keeping the house organized. Allowances are small amounts of money given by parents to their children, usually on a weekly basis. These usually range from 5 dollars to 15 dollars, sometimes even 20 dollars. Many parents feel that teenagers can learn financial responsibility with this system.

Now I will talk about farm land. Farm land can be identified by some common features. They almost always consist of a very large patch of dirt with small green plants lined up in very long rows. You may sometimes see farm equipment riding over these rows, like tractors or combines. These machines help farmers grow more crops in less time. They are a very helpful invention. Some different types of crops are soybeans, cotton, corn, tomatoes, tobacco, and lettuce (which I mentioned earlier). Most crops are used as food, and can be defined as either fruits or vegetables. Some are commonly eaten raw, after being rinsed in water to remove any dirt. Some are often cooked, which helps give them a more pleasant taste and makes them easier to chew. A very versatile vegetable is the potato. It can be eaten raw, or it can be cooked in a variety of ways. They can be baked, and many people like to add butter to them. They can be mashed, and a lot of times brown gravy or milk gravy is poured on top of them. They can be cut into thin strips and fried. Typically a large amount of grease is required to prepare potatoes in this style, but they are easy to make and easy to eat. You can order them at several fast-food restaurants. Potatoes can also be boiled, stewed, and scalloped. There is a wide variety of options available to you when cooking potatoes.

Some other types of crops grown on farm land are used for other purposes. Cotton is used to make clothing (which I also mentioned earlier). It is a very versatile and inexpensive material for clothes. Such items as shirts, pants, socks, and underwear can be made from cotton. The process of converting cotton from a cotton plant to clothing is fairly complicated. Today, cotton is harvested more efficiently through the use of the cotton gin, invented by Eli Whitney many years ago.

Tobacco is another type of crop. It is used in making cigarettes. A lot of people smoke cigarettes, even though many medical sources have identified them as harmful to people’s health. Warnings are printed on cigarette packages reminding people of possible dangers resulting from smoking. Cigarettes are available in several brands, including Marlboro, Salem, and Virginia Slims. There is a brand called Kool, but I don’t know whether they are still available at most outlets. Tobacco farming is a large industry, and currently there is debate about it. Recently the government decided on some regulations that cost tobacco companies a large amount of money.

If you notice, some farm lands have animals living on them. Most of these are cows, and there are also pigs, sheep, and goats living on farms. Some are raised for the milk they provide. This milk goes through several processes to ensure that it is not contaminated before it is made available to consumers at stores (which I mentioned earlier). Another use for farm animals is meat. Three popular types of meat are beef, pork, and chicken. Beef comes from cows. Pork comes from pigs. Chicken comes from chickens, but you probably knew that. These animals are raised to become plump and healthy, then they are killed, sometimes at slaughter houses. The meat is then removed from their bodies, cleaned, and made available at a variety of stores and restaurants. Sometimes this process can seem gross, but it is part of an advanced ecological food chain on earth. Just like birds eat worms and tigers eat deer, human beings eat cows and pigs. The main difference is that we don’t eat animals raw. We cook the meat to remove blood, fat, and germs from it. We also season our meat with salt or different kinds of sauces. The end result is food that is very tasty and is healthy for us.

Farmers do not like trespassers. If a farmer sees one, he will sometimes shoot at them with a shotgun that he owns. Trespassing is against the law. Laws are created by government to prevent people from living in fear. They are meant to provide safety for citizens. Our government in America consists of a legislative branch, an executive branch, and a judicial branch. The legislative branch makes laws based on the concerns of citizens they represent. The executive branch consists of the President. This person enforces the law, and he has certain other duties like declaring war and approving bills prepared by members of the legislative branch. The President is also considered the leader of our country. The judicial branch interprets the laws. This branch consists of the courts and the trials held in them. Here a judge and jury determine from evidence presented by lawyers whether someone is guilty of breaking a law. Initial law enforcement takes place among police officers. They are the first people to encounter situations where a law is being broken. If a criminal (law-breaker) becomes too violent or hostile, they will use guns or mace or nightsticks to administer immediate punishment. Their goal is to bring the criminal under control, so that he can receive a punishment determined by members of the judicial branch of government. Punishments mostly include time in jail, but they can also include fines and, in extreme cases, the death penalty. There is controversy surrounding the death penalty.

Children play with toys. This is common to almost all kids. Toys come in a very wide variety. Boys tend to like cars, action figures, and toy weapons. Girls tend to like dolls, toy kitchens, and make-up. Both of them like building or assembling things, be it with Legos, blocks, Play-Doh, or something similar. Toys can be found at most stores, and these days entire stores are dedicated to selling only toys. The most popular of these is Toys ‘R’ Us (with a backwards “R”). Their mascot is Geoffrey the Giraffe. Children love to go to Toys ‘R’ Us and look at the wide variety of toys available. Most children receive the greatest quanitity of toys on their birthdays, or during the holiday season in December. For the majority of children, this holiday is Christmas. For Jewish children, the holiday is Channakuh. Either way, the kid gets presents during this time, and most of these presents are toys.

Christmas is a holiday which has gradually become centered around the character “Santa Claus” and his elves and reindeer. Children are told that Santa’s elves build their toys, and Santa delivers them personally to each house in the world by riding in an airborne sleigh hauled by nine reindeer, including Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer, who leads the way. Another popular Christmas character is Frosty the Snowman. Frosty is basically any snowman that comes to life. So during Christmas, many children build snowmen, and some of them hope that theirs might come to life. But all of these characters are myths. The true origin of Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Jesus, who founded the religion of Christianity a couple of thousand years ago. Many popular Christmas carols deal with his story, such as “Joy to the World” and “Silent Night.”

Other holidays include Thanksgiving, Halloween, and Independence Day. Thanksgiving has become a tradition of preparing large quantities of food for a large gathering of people, mainly family and friends. This meal usually features turkey or ham as the main course. Turkey and ham are both kinds of meat (which I mentioned earlier). The meal usually also consists of dressing and a wide assortment of vegetables (which I also mentioned earlier). The origin of Thanksgiving is usually traced to the days of the pilgrims, who were the first settlers in America. They made peace with the native people, the Indians, and together enjoyed a large feast, thanking God for providing them with such an abundance. (Their concepts of God were probably very different.)

Halloween is the holiday when people dress in costumes to look like other characters. Most of these are children, who go from door to door in different neighborhoods to request candy from the people living there. They usually say “trick or treat” then receive a treat. Very rarely does the person in the house respond with a trick. Halloween has some sort of demonic origin that I am not quite sure about, but the name derives from “All Hallow’s Eve.” I will not say much about Independence Day, but it is the day Americans celebrate the anniversary of our independence from Britain. Most families purchase fireworks during this holiday and set them off in their lawns (which I mentioned earlier).

America gained independence from Britain in the late 1700’s after the Revolutionary War. Britain was hoping to extend its empire across the Atlantic Ocean, but the colonists who settled the territory did not want to be under Britain’s control, with their various taxes and regulations. Both sides were very passionate about their position on the issue, so a war occurred. This war featured a few heroes, including George Washington and Paul Revere. George Washington became America’s first president when we gained independence. I am not sure what happened to Paul Revere. The Declaration of Independence was written before the war by Thomas Jefferson in 1776 and made clear the position of the colonists. It was signed by many important people, including Ben Franklin and John Hancock. Ben Franklin is well-known for many things. One of these is inventing electrical conductors in the form of lightning rods. A famous tale is that he flew a kite with a small piece of metal somewhere on the string during a lightning storm. This was an effective way to test his theory. Another thing Ben Franklin is known for is publishing Poor Richards Almanac. This was like a magazine and contained some of his famous writings and quotations. One famous quote was “Tell me, I forget. Teach me, I remember. Involve me, I learn.” Maybe this had something to do with why he flew that kite.

Trees are one of our most important natural resources. They are made of wood, and wood can be made into a variety of products. Some of the more obvious kinds are furniture, houses, and toothpicks. However, wood can also be made into paper. When I first heard this, I was skeptical, but it is true. Paper is a very important product in our society. Writers and artists have greatly benefited from the invention of paper. With only some paper and a pen or pencil, a writer can produce stories and poems that can captivate readers. They can also write down historical facts about their society. Actually, these writings don’t become historical until years later. At the time, the writings could probably be considered news. Artists use paper for their drawings and paintings. They can also use canvas. Drawings and paintings can be very beautiful. They can depict a wide variety of subjects, including flowers, animals, landscapes, and people. They can be realistic or impressionistic. Some paintings also attempt to convey emotions merely by the way the colors are combined and the brushstrokes are applied. This is a modern or contemporary approach to art. Many people think this approach does not require as much talent as the realistic styles.

I will end my writing here. I have tried to make it very boring, and I hope I have succeeded. There are plenty of boring documents available for you to read. Check your public library for more information. You can also find boring materials at a bookstore or on websites. Sometimes this information can be found in magazines (which I mentioned earlier).
Y did u post this
[Reply]
Pitt Gorilla 06:54 PM 07-05-2024
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
It's an interesting read, for sure.

It's one of those things I'm not sure would work at higher levels. Kind of like the triple option.

It sounds like you're playing with 4 LBs on the field all the time. Basically a modified 34 D.

The answers the highest levels have found against 34s would work here, too.

Power/Zone/Gap blocking schemes. Moving pockets. Etc.
I think that's exactly what it is, with perhaps more zone/DB blitzes.
[Reply]
Pitt Gorilla 06:56 PM 07-05-2024
Originally Posted by scho63:
Most doctoral thesis are shorter than this word salad.

Spoiler tags are your friend. Holy ****......
It was as really quick and interesting read. Always fun to hear about "innovation", even if it might not be completely innovative.
[Reply]
Page 3 of 3
< 123
Up