I personally believe that Tamba Hali will be an absolute stud in the 3-4 defense. I think he is similar to Mike Vrabel in that he never gives up on a play. He is very active and gives himself fully to the cause.
I have read that Hali is 'too slow'. Does anyone know what Vrabel's 40 yard dash time was? Or any of his drills? I am just wondering how they stack up to Hali's. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Agreed almost 100%.
He can't play DE in the 3-4, he's not good at taking on blockers head on. He's not just too light, he's short too.
Forget the 40 and look at the shuttle time. He can close on the ball and that's enough to make him a servicable OLB for situational duty.
I'm not gonna go as far as to say he will be "good" but I don't think he's a lock to get cut like so many think he is.
I don't think he's going to be cut, I just don't think he's going to fit at OLB at all. I see him basically exactly the opposite of you. I see a tweener that on one hand doesn't have the explosion to rush the passer or the ability to take on ball carriers in space, which makes him a bad fit at OLB. And on the other hand he doesn't have the prototypical bulk or strength for DE. I think in his case it would be more productive to work with the strength and conditioning staff and push him up into the 290 range, because the shortcomings he has at OLB aren't things that can be fixed.
I'm talking purely theoretically, in terms of what I think it would take to get him playing every down.
My guess is he'll end up being a nickel pass rusher. Which is a monumental waste of a 1st round pick. But what can you do... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
In a 3-4 he isn't a DE.
I think Mecca is correct he is a little light for a 3/4 DE. It depends what kind of 3/4 system you will run. If you run a system similer to the Patriots where you expect your DE and NT to two gap then yes he is too small. If you run something like the Steelers D than he might work. Brett Keisal from the Steelers is 6'5 285 and seems to do OK in that system. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
My guess is he'll end up being a nickel pass rusher. Which is a monumental waste of a 1st round pick. But what can you do...
I hope people don't confuse what I'm saying about Hali as a "defense" of him.
Because the sentence I quoted above is 100% how I feel about it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
You're a halipologist who wants herm back on the sideline and wishes carl was still running the team. Everybody knows it.
It is only a matter of time before he wil be Piosimilated. [Reply]
I think this is the thread we were speculating about. I guess it was Mecca and some others, apologies to GoChiefs for the false accusation
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Tamba Hali gets beat by QB's around the end...if you think he can play OLB in a 3-4 I feel bad for you the guy is a marginal starter in a 4-3 defense let alone a 3-4 defense.
I'm ready to be rid of the guy. 40 time or not Tamba Hali plays slow.
Originally Posted by Mecca:
You know what Tamba Hali is really good at?
Getting injured.
I can't believe anyone still gives a shit about him to be honest you'd think after 3 years people would realize the guy just isn't very good.