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oaklandhater 12:34 PM 09-16-2024

Passing touchdowns through two weeks:

2019: 105
2020: 110
2021: 110
2022: 105
2023: 86
2024: 66*

*Pending MNF

— Steve Palazzolo (@StevePalazzolo_) September 16, 2024


high shell coverage changes everything

Pundits will tell you it's 'shell' coverage, but it's more nuanced than that... https://t.co/wJLoQ2hHED

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Hog's Gone Fishin 12:36 PM 09-16-2024
See, they're playing Mahomes different the last two years. We'll need to change sumpthin
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oaklandhater 12:37 PM 09-16-2024
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
See, they're playing Mahomes different the last two years. We'll need to change sumpthin

2024 quarterback PFF grading and efficiency (EPA/play) thru Week 2 SNF, min 15 dropbacks

- Derek Carr & Kyler Murray leading the way, as we expected
- It's Dalton time in Carolina
- Allen, Mayfield, Willis and Daniels overperforming grades
- Opposite for Watson, Jones pic.twitter.com/MA2pIYHrxp

— Kevin Cole (@KevinCole___) September 16, 2024


mahomes still middle of the pack after playing 2 of the best defenses in the league.
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pugsnotdrugs19 12:37 PM 09-16-2024
Really probably has as much to do with blocking as it does any coverages.

Combine the two though and yeah, shit's tough.
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Pasta Little Brioni 12:40 PM 09-16-2024
What ever it is it's painful to watch. Games are a brutal slog this year. Horribly officiated over calling penalties on tye offense. Just a terrible product.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 12:40 PM 09-16-2024
Ugh, Sam Darnold is better than Mahomes according to that chart. Off to the Doom thread!
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ToxSocks 12:40 PM 09-16-2024
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Really probably has as much to do with blocking as it does any coverages.

Combine the two though and yeah, shit's tough.
Watching games around the league yesterday and yeah, Oline play is pretty shit everywhere.

I know we're struggling with our LT, but damn, we are far from alone.
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Mecca 12:43 PM 09-16-2024
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Ugh, Sam Darnold is better than Mahomes according to that chart. Off to the Doom thread!
Sam Darnold got to play the Giants in one of those games and also has THE BEST WR IN THE LEAGUE.
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Rain Man 03:19 PM 09-16-2024
I assume this is directly related to Bo Nix starting at quarterback.
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RealSNR 03:23 PM 09-16-2024
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
I assume this is directly related to Bo Nix starting at quarterback.

Correlation does not equal causation, but Bo Nix DOES equal horrible QB stats
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Valiant 04:34 PM 09-16-2024
Lots of young qbs and most teams playing 2 deep.

We tried saying what would happen after mahomes adapted and others could not.

I see 2 te sets and 2 rbs.coming back.to popularity from costs alone.
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comochiefsfan 05:08 PM 09-16-2024
Originally Posted by Valiant:
Lots of young qbs and most teams playing 2 deep.

We tried saying what would happen after mahomes adapted and others could not.

I see 2 te sets and 2 rbs.coming back.to popularity from costs alone.
Mahomes has adapted as well as anyone but even he is good for one or two throws a game where he gets impatient and YOLO’s it deep which usually leads to a pick or nearly a pick.

It’s such a boring way to play and watch football. I don’t know what the league can really do about it because I don’t think it’s going away anytime soon. But it’s annoying and hurting the product from a viewing standpoint.
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chiefzilla1501 05:21 PM 09-16-2024
I just find it hard to believe it’s just the defensive coverages. This isn’t a new defense and there are lots of experienced QBs playing like shit. So what is it? Some theories starting with reasonable to bat shit crazy…

Refusal to play starters enough preseason minutes . OL in particular don’t get nearly the offseason training they used to
Defensive coaching has improved. Not as many great young offensive minds
New qb contracts mean less stockpiling of talent. Is it harder to find and keep good OL?

I also hate to go this route. But I wonder if Vegas has some hand. Unders are good for business and seems strange that baseball and nfl have had major offense droughts. Maybe less motivation to juice the game as they have in the past?
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