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Chiefspants 02:13 PM 09-02-2024
Re-watching the AFC Championship rematch against the Bengals (my dark horse vote for the most important win in our dynasty), made me remember just how much of a gamewrecker Jones was from the beginning to the end of the game, and it made me realize that I wish the NFL had Championship MVP’s like baseball does for the LCS.

If you had the deciding vote for awarding game MVP’s for each of our AFC Championship wins, who would you vote for (bonus points for the old timers who vote for someone in our 1969 championship win against the Raiders and our 1966 win against the Bills).
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crispystl 02:22 PM 09-02-2024
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Re-watching the AFC Championship rematch against the Bengals (my dark horse vote for the most important win in our dynasty), made me remember just how much of a gamewrecker Jones was from the beginning to the end of the game, and it made me realize that I wish the NFL had Championship MVP’s like baseball does for the LCS.

If you had the deciding vote for awarding game MVP’s for each of our AFC Championship wins, who would you vote for (bonus points for the old timers who vote for someone in our 1969 championship win against the Raiders and our 1966 win against the Bills).
Kelce had a great game too.
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DRM08 02:22 PM 09-02-2024
2019/2020 (Titans) - Mahomes & Spags
2020/2021 (Buffalo) - Mahomes & Spags
2022/2023 (Cincy) - Mahomes (bad ankle, never forget) and Spags
2023/2024 (Ravens) - LJ Sneed & Spags
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Pasta Little Brioni 02:45 PM 09-02-2024
Peg leg Pat. Outplayed Burrow on 1 leg.
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Chiefspants 02:52 PM 09-02-2024
Originally Posted by DRM08:
2019/2020 (Titans) - Mahomes & Spags
2020/2021 (Buffalo) - Mahomes & Spags
2022/2023 (Cincy) - Mahomes (bad ankle, never forget) and Spags
2023/2024 (Ravens) - LJ Sneed & Spags
This is close to mine.

Titans: Mahomes
Bills: Mahomes
Cinci: Jones
Ravens: Sneed

Jones sack on Burrow with 39 ticks left was the gamechanging, defensive play we had been praying for against Indy in 03, Indy in 13, Pats in 15, Steelers in 16, Titans in 17, Pats in 18, and Cincy in 21. That catharsis makes me a bit biased, but that sack is a play I think about as much as WASP, Corndogs I & II, The Run, and Sneed’s forced fumble.
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Ocotillo 02:56 PM 09-02-2024
1993 AFC Championship
Keith Cash
6 catches, 87 yards
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Bl00dyBizkitz 03:03 PM 09-02-2024
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Re-watching the AFC Championship rematch against the Bengals (my dark horse vote for the most important win in our dynasty), made me remember just how much of a gamewrecker Jones was from the beginning to the end of the game, and it made me realize that I wish the NFL had Championship MVP’s like baseball does for the LCS.

If you had the deciding vote for awarding game MVP’s for each of our AFC Championship wins, who would you vote for (bonus points for the old timers who vote for someone in our 1969 championship win against the Raiders and our 1966 win against the Bills).
I'm with you, thr Cincy AFC Chamionship was the most important win of this dynasty.

After going 0-3 against Burrow head to head and 0-1 in the playoffs, there was enough evidence to suggest the Bengals just had our number.

If we lose, Cincy is the new super power in the AFC and Burrow is considered equal to Mahomes, if not better than Mahomes.

That was the game that defined our legacy. We lose, its all over and the Chiefs are a 1 and done. We win, and we have a shot at 2 super bowl wins in 4 years, and eventually a dynasty.
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Chiefspants 03:20 PM 09-02-2024
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
I'm with you, thr Cincy AFC Chamionship was the most important win of this dynasty.

After going 0-3 against Burrow head to head and 0-1 in the playoffs, there was enough evidence to suggest the Bengals just had our number.

If we lose, Cincy is the new super power in the AFC and Burrow is considered equal to Mahomes, if not better than Mahomes.

That was the game that defined our legacy. We lose, its all over and the Chiefs are a 1 and done. We win, and we have a shot at 2 super bowl wins in 4 years, and eventually a dynasty.
100%. Burrow winning and eventually winning the Super Bowl and SBMVP (their shithouse OL would have benefitted tremendously from the slip n slide field), would have ended our Legion of Zoom era dynasty hunt and given Burrow all of Patrick’s accolades without the regular season MVP’s (a fact made up for by his 4-0 record on Patrick).

I also forgot just how combative the build-up for the rematch was, and how intense the game was from the kickoff to Butler’s field goal. I hadn’t been that nervous watching a game since our AFCCG against the Patriots or our first Super Bowl. Add in Pat’s injuries and our five(?) starters who went down injured and it truly took everything we had to send them home and launch into dynasty mode.

The nerd in me also thinks about the butterfly effect that the Bengals winning it all would have had by changing the order of both the Chiefs and Bengals schedules the following year.
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crispystl 03:40 PM 09-02-2024
Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz:
I'm with you, thr Cincy AFC Chamionship was the most important win of this dynasty.

After going 0-3 against Burrow head to head and 0-1 in the playoffs, there was enough evidence to suggest the Bengals just had our number.

If we lose, Cincy is the new super power in the AFC and Burrow is considered equal to Mahomes, if not better than Mahomes.

That was the game that defined our legacy. We lose, its all over and the Chiefs are a 1 and done. We win, and we have a shot at 2 super bowl wins in 4 years, and eventually a dynasty.

That’s the most nervous I’ve ever been for any Chiefs game. We HAD to win it.


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DRM08 03:43 PM 09-02-2024
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
This is close to mine.

Titans: Mahomes
Bills: Mahomes
Cincy: Jones
Ravens: Sneed

Jones sack on Burrow with 39 ticks left was the gamechanging, defensive play we had been praying for against Indy in 03, Indy in 13, Pats in 15, Steelers in 16, Titans in 17, Pats in 18, and Cincy in 21. That catharsis makes me a bit biased, but that sack is a play I think about as much as WASP, The Run, and Sneed’s forced fumble.
I think Chris Jones did what you would expect a great pass rusher to do against an injured OL. He destroyed Burrow. Similar to what happened to Mahomes with an injured OL in the Tampa Super Bowl.

I would give Mahomes the edge on Jones in the Cincy game because of Patrick’s ankle injury and the injured WR group. At one point he converted a 3rd down with a practice squad receiver. Two massive conversions on 3rd and 4th down for TD’s to Kelce & MVS. Kelce deserves major props for fighting through a back injury in this game. If either one of the Kelce & MVS TD plays don’t work, Cincy wins the game. There is also the Mahomes scramble on the bad ankle to setup Butker’s FG kick at the end.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 04:16 PM 09-02-2024
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
100%. Burrow winning and eventually winning the Super Bowl and SBMVP (their shithouse OL would have benefitted tremendously from the slip n slide field), would have ended our Legion of Zoom era dynasty hunt and given Burrow all of Patrick’s accolades without the regular season MVP’s (a fact made up for by his 4-0 record on Patrick).

I also forgot just how combative the build-up for the rematch was, and how intense the game was from the kickoff to Butler’s field goal. I hadn’t been that nervous watching a game since our AFCCG against the Patriots or our first Super Bowl. Add in Pat’s injuries and our five(?) starters who went down injured and it truly took everything we had to send them home and launch into dynasty mode.

The nerd in me also thinks about the butterfly effect that the Bengals winning it all would have had by changing the order of both the Chiefs and Bengals schedules the following year.
Yeah I left out all the Burrowhead shit talking that occurred that week since there were enough stakes, but that just added to it. They had our number AND were talking trash like the win was guaranteed for them.

I think about it similarly to Miami LeBron vs Celtics Game 6. Slightly different because Mahomes had a ring and LeBron had none, but they both had legacy defining stakes attached to them that would alter your legacy forever.
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RedinTexas 05:54 PM 09-02-2024
For the '69 AFL championship I'll throw out Emmitt Thomas. He had 2 interceptions and one of them helped to seal the game. He also had a third in the endzone, but it was erroneously ruled out of bounds.

It could also be DE Aaron Brown though. He had a few sacks and made life miserable for Oakland QB Daryle Lamonica who was the league mvp that year.
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tredadda 06:18 PM 09-02-2024
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
Peg leg Pat. Outplayed Burrow on 1 leg.
This. Considering how he played with high ankle sprain with MVS, Moore, and Kemp as his WRs is way too underrated.
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GeorgeZimZam 06:20 PM 09-02-2024
I'll say HC Andy Reid is the cumulative AFCCG MVP. That way OP might put to rest I voiced criticism of him previously. :-)
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Chiefspants 07:28 PM 09-02-2024
Originally Posted by DRM08:
I would give Mahomes the edge on Jones in the Cinci game because of Patrick’s ankle injury and the injured WR group. At one point he converted a 3rd down with a practice squad receiver. Two massive conversions on 3rd and 4th down for TD’s to Kelce & MVS. Kelce deserves major props for fighting through a back injury in this game. If either one of the Kelce & MVS TD plays don’t work, Cinci wins the game. There is also the Mahomes scramble on the bad ankle to setup Butker’s FG kick at the end.
At the risk of getting downvoted, there are two things that swing the vote to Jones for me. I think this was the gutsiest performance of Patrick’s career, so none of this is a criticism towards him.

1. Jones single-handedly ended three of Cinci’s drives. Two with critical sacks, but importantly, he prevented a touchdown at the end of the 1st half with a hit on Burrow. His sack with 39 seconds left came at DE, a position he struggled with the previous season, and swung a game winning drive for Cinci back to Patrick to drive and win the game.

2. Patrick’s fumble, up 20-13 at the end of the third, was a potential 14 point swing that led to Cinci driving down and tying the game.

For those reasons, I vote Jones despite a legendary performance from Patrick. While Patrick got most of the heat for the AFCCG loss the year before, Jones missed two potential sacks on Burrow that could have given the game to KC. A year later, CJ made up for it and brought the Lamar Hunt trophy back to Kansas City.
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